VX intercooling and swap flash pcm with memcal pcm

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Re: VX intercooling and swap flash pcm with memcal pcm

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Sorry just read the 11P is for the 424.
So the 11P is essentially more compatible with the newer BCM's unlike the 12P?
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put simply:

808 = $12P = Engine control.
424 = $11P = Engine and Gearbox control.

so anything VR onwards had an electronically controlled auto and needs 11P, but anything before that or most manual options can use 12P as its only gearbox control is the torque converter lockup solenoid. (vn/vp gearboxes)
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Well I've decided to run with 11P on the 424 for when I put the cooler and smaller pulley but until then I'll run with my 16233396 PCM and harness adaptor, hopefully Antus will get back to me soon about the NVRAM so I can tune it to it's potential on the dyno next week friday.

My checklist this far for learning to tune MAP, how it works and any hardware
Holden 202's Basic tuning of a Delco ECM and Advanced tuning of a Delco ECM using $12P http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=1089
VL400's OSE 11P package http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=27&t=3798
424 PCM pinouts to make another adapter harness
424 NVRAM http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=3612

Just at a quick browse there's a lot of good and very useful info.

Anything else I should consider taking a look at or getting?
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I believe Antus is on holidays overseas at the moment so you might have to hang tight for a reply for a while!
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FYI the purpose of the boost inhibit solenoid is to stop the supercharger oil from getting cooked
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charlay86 wrote:FYI the purpose of the boost inhibit solenoid is to stop the supercharger oil from getting cooked
interesting concept. There isnt a great volume of oil in there.
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charlay86 wrote:FYI the purpose of the boost inhibit solenoid is to stop the supercharger oil from getting cooked
Yeah it's there to stop the engine from boosting and further cooking itself when coolant temp rises past 116C or past 80C intake air temp. An already extremely hot engine receiving boost will cause some real nasty combustion burns and give off horrible combustion pressures which will more than likely do some damage.

The1's extended bin and xdf allow for modifying of when the solenoid activates and cuts the boost but I just noticed then the table I was looking at ranges from -40C to 152C was actually intake temp, coolant temp only ranges from 104C to 128C.

Seeing as I'm running a manual would it be possible to extend the range of the coolant temp vs boost limit using the space originally allocated for the auto data?
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The blower's oil has no way to cool down other than the engine cooling system and some hot engine bay air (and maybe some cool inlet charge when it is bypassed).
From what I understand from looking at the code it is mainly a problem caused by operating under boosted conditions for extended periods of time.

The table range can easily be altered, but why would you want to?
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Good point, makes sense also.

I let a lot of people drive my car and I get paranoid about them putting their foot flat when it's cold. At the moment I'm not overly worried but with the setup I'm sorting out now I don't there to be any chance of hurting the engine. If it was just me driving I can control my right foot but others not so much :roll: so it'll be a safety feature if you want to call it that
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That's a good idea, I was toying with the idea of repurposing one of the spare digital inputs as a map switch for "valet mode"... low rev limit, low octane spark map and no boost for lead-footed mates
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