16206304 and less important 1623019 from poland
Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2022 8:07 pm
From the last few days i'm trying to find any information about my 16206304 that was used in FSO polonez ('89-'96) TBI 700 injection known as just GLI and abimex (important till the '96 because after was bosch system), with stupid spark module which is burning all the time and costs thousands, and then was 16238019 with Multipoint('98-'02) known as GSI and multec (less important for now because i dont have a car to test it).
I didnt check 16238019 for now, because i dont have a car like this or cables.
It starts from that all polonez users have so much problems with diagnose this cars, because there is only one program that works only on MS-DOS and COM port. Nobody has it these days. There is no source code to modify it. Data stream looks similar to A001 but it is not the same with few words (bytes).
I found few informations about transmisions speed like 160 baud and 8192 baud, and it looks like 16206304 ECM should works with both, so i have got ecm with cables in my room, and i checked it on oscilloscope, and there is no 8192 transmission with any resistor combination on A+B.
There is only 160 transmission at 10k. No answer at 3.9, and shorted. At shorted i can only check malf-s on check engine light.
Today i'll try to read EPROM, and i'll post it here.
I saw that tere is NVRAM modification for it, but i'm not really interested because of the price. TBI system in our cars is really fragile because of ignition module, and nobody really want to modify it. The only solution is to use old ignition device to avoid problems.
So my questions are.
>I just saw that its similar ecm like 5 on the end, and 16183082. Does they have working 8192 without memcal modification?
>How can i run 8192 baud?
>Can i connect wideband o2 signal 0-5v directly to ecu after software(memcal) modification?
>Can it be modified to use 3bar map-sensor?
Probably i will have more questions, but for now i just forgot.
Now fun facts.
Car was produced from '78, and those days was known as outdated.
If somebody is interested how engine with TBI 700 looks like.
And yeah. Engine is from fiat 125. in '78 oil main was modified from semi-flow oil filter and rotation oil filter to more actual standards. Somewhere around 89 it starts to have 1.6 from 1.5 cylinders capacity. In '89 on export to holland it had TBI 700, but in country it starts to have it more often from '93. In '97 was modified to hydraulic valve adjustment and all engines was known as camshafts-eaters. In '98 starts to have multipoint injection (multec xm) but it was also not so popular. More often was GLI bosch injection which has almost 30 horsepower in my opinion.
So construction known from late '50 was produced through 50 years with no serious modification. I'm so proud.
Have a nice day.
- 16206304
- 16298019
It starts from that all polonez users have so much problems with diagnose this cars, because there is only one program that works only on MS-DOS and COM port. Nobody has it these days. There is no source code to modify it. Data stream looks similar to A001 but it is not the same with few words (bytes).
I found few informations about transmisions speed like 160 baud and 8192 baud, and it looks like 16206304 ECM should works with both, so i have got ecm with cables in my room, and i checked it on oscilloscope, and there is no 8192 transmission with any resistor combination on A+B.
There is only 160 transmission at 10k. No answer at 3.9, and shorted. At shorted i can only check malf-s on check engine light.
Today i'll try to read EPROM, and i'll post it here.
I saw that tere is NVRAM modification for it, but i'm not really interested because of the price. TBI system in our cars is really fragile because of ignition module, and nobody really want to modify it. The only solution is to use old ignition device to avoid problems.
So my questions are.
>I just saw that its similar ecm like 5 on the end, and 16183082. Does they have working 8192 without memcal modification?
>How can i run 8192 baud?
>Can i connect wideband o2 signal 0-5v directly to ecu after software(memcal) modification?
>Can it be modified to use 3bar map-sensor?
Probably i will have more questions, but for now i just forgot.
Now fun facts.
Car was produced from '78, and those days was known as outdated.
If somebody is interested how engine with TBI 700 looks like.
And yeah. Engine is from fiat 125. in '78 oil main was modified from semi-flow oil filter and rotation oil filter to more actual standards. Somewhere around 89 it starts to have 1.6 from 1.5 cylinders capacity. In '89 on export to holland it had TBI 700, but in country it starts to have it more often from '93. In '97 was modified to hydraulic valve adjustment and all engines was known as camshafts-eaters. In '98 starts to have multipoint injection (multec xm) but it was also not so popular. More often was GLI bosch injection which has almost 30 horsepower in my opinion.
So construction known from late '50 was produced through 50 years with no serious modification. I'm so proud.
Have a nice day.