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DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby Holden202T » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:02 pm

So for those that dont know what corner weight scales are, they are 4 pads that go under each wheel of your car and they all connect up to a central unit that takes reading from each pad and provides and nice interface to show you the weight of your car as a total, as well as front to rear and side to side percentages and a few other bits and pieces. Below is pics i found on the web of a typical setup, these range from $1500-$3000 from what i've seen of a quick google search.

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So the thought process started around having scales to help set up the four link in the FX properly, and i queried VL400 about could a load cell be connected to the data logger analog inputs to make a basic scale reader, i figured even just a basic display of 4 weights would be better than nothing.

He quickly pointed out that a nextion screen would be a cool option and connects easily to an arduino which has the capacity to take inputs from wheel pads and drive the screen over serial, so i started looking into all the bits, the arduino was easy, i bought one years ago to play, did the blinking LED on it to confirm i could actually program it and then never really used it.

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I also purchased a 4.3 inch nextion screen from ebay, these are made in heaps of sizes and this one was about $80 delivered.

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So i setup the bits and got a pot connected to one of the analog inputs to simulate the 0-5v input i would get from a load cell.

I quickly got bored of waiting for parts to arrive from china so i started making the white screen with 4 numbers on it a bit prettier :)

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Most of the numbers above are simulated but gives you an idea of what the layout can look like with these nextion screens.

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I set it up so when you click on the first image it changes to the second screen



One of the parts i had been waiting for was a load cell interface to connect between the load cell and the arduino, these finally arrived last friday.

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So i plan to use these load cells, as they are nice and flat and these are very similar to what you find in commercial units., so i will make a steel plate to go on each side of it and some sides so it looks half professional :P

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I connected up one of the load cells and put it in the vice to see what sort of readings i could get from it, i am not actually sure what these numbers mean as the load cell is up to 500kg ... so maybe 5000grams or something.... anyways the fact i can get increments from it as i apply load was the main test really.

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Its still very much in the R&D phase but the plan is to mount it all in a jaycar box or similar and have the option of either a battery pack or just a 240v plug pack to drive it all.

I will probably make a PCB to plug the arudino and all the amps into and get them all linked up and powered through one PCB and then have plugs on the size of the box for each wheel pad to connect to.

so far the running totall is roughly:

nextion screen $80
arduino with usb $30
4 x load cell amplifiers $11
4 x cantilever load cells $220

there will be some more cost with steel for the pad and probably a bit more to fit it all into a box, but im hoping it can be complete for under $500 :)

one thing i really love about it is the nextion screen is so configurable, the sky is the limit really and its about the same size as my samsung phone and probably very similar picture quality so its pretty cool in that regard!

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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby L67PSI » Sun Mar 18, 2018 10:10 pm

Great project. Please keep us updated on the progress.

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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby krusty » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:50 am

This is so great! Love your work :punk:

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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby BARBS » Mon Mar 19, 2018 3:39 pm

This is an awesome project mate well done.

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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby immortality » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:54 pm

Simply brilliant and yet brilliantly simple. Keep up the good work :)
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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby delcowizzid » Mon Mar 19, 2018 6:24 pm

Awesome sucks having to borrow scales and you should really do it after every meeting if you have them I'm keen to make a set
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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby vlad01 » Mon Mar 19, 2018 8:01 pm

I got a set, I used them few times but not much. I know they are handy for setting up track cars but I only used it to confirm the specified weight in the brochure.
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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby Holden202T » Tue Mar 20, 2018 8:24 am

when I first got the gemini completed I used a mates scales and got the following results, I should have re-done it after the turbo went on, I know the extra weight would have been front left anyways heheh :)

I always thought the gemini has good weight balance considering I had just jammed a 202 in the front of it, but I am certainly interested to see how the weight balance is in the FX being that the motor is further back.

so numbers below that are out of the box is with me in the car.

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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby Tazzi » Tue Mar 20, 2018 11:25 am

Ooooooo, nice project!

Looks like you'll need to make the microcontroller take base readings first with nothing on them to indicate the zero base weight.
Then chuck on a known weight to work out what the correlation is between the readouts and actual weight.

I feel like my only use for this.. would be having beers with the lads to see who can stamp on it the hardest :lol:
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Re: DIY Corner Weight Scales

Postby delcowizzid » Tue Mar 20, 2018 12:25 pm

Hahaha who are all the pies measurement
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