Chrysler SKIM Reset

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The_Lishp
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Re: Chrysler SKIM Reset

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I'm in need again lol will any of the 9 levels allow you to turn the immobilizer off or skim reset which idk if it works on can bus vehicles I've heard it does and Ive also heard that doesn't matter on can bus but idk and what's good software for fca seed key request communication do I use a can sniffer or can logger or something entirely different
The_Lishp
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Joined: Wed May 11, 2022 6:27 am
cars: 2015 Dodge dart 2.4
2016 Jeep patriot 2.4

Re: Chrysler SKIM Reset

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Tazzi wrote:I have been approached a few times about this, asking about resetting SKIM on chrysler/Jeep (FCA) engine computers.
For those that don't know what that is, SKIM (SENTRY KEY IMMOBILIZER MODULE) is the security system of the vehicle. The SKIM is its own module, but the ECM looks for a pass or go message that occurs from the SKIM system which is why the industry standard seems to the ECM SKIM reset (Basically ECM security reset).
From what I have read, the J2534 toolbox by drewtech does the older stuff but none of the newer (GPEC3 ect).

I have only found a couple places indicating selling software, one of which has a terrible reputation and has scammed multiple people with incomplete software, or stuff and just does not work :?

It appears people use the wording SKIM reset or SKIM removal. Personally I would think its two different things but it appears to be the same. Once the SKIM is reset in the ECU, effectively it has cleared the old security information (Back to new ecu state) so the ECU is ready for new security information. By design of the SKIM system, if the actual SKIM module is disconnected and the ECU is then fitted, this keeps the ECU in a non security state thus allowing the vehicle to start, but if that SKIM module is fitted again, the ECU detects the security and will activate its SKIM security internally.

Now thats been cleared up, there appears to be a couple methods to achieve this reset :
1) Use factory replacement methods which appears to require a PIN (not well documented).
2) Read security flash (tuning style) and write back in a fresh ecu section (VIN writing required after this).


Here is a copy paste of the actual replacement procedure:
Record the flash part number in the original Powertrain Control Module (PCM).
Have the vehicle Personal Identification Number (PIN) available.
Connect a battery charger to the vehicle.
Connect the diagnostic scan tool.
Position the ignition to the RUN.
Manually enter the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) in diagnostic scan tool to identify what vehicle you are working on.
When the diagnostic scan tool successfully identifies the vehicle, locate the correct flash and flash the PCM software. Follow the diagnostic scan tool prompts. Position the ignition off for 90 seconds then cycle the ignition as directed.
Perform the “PCM Replaced” routine in “Misc Functions” menu under the Body Control Module (BCM).
Perform the “ Proxy Configuration Alignment ” located under the Guided Diagnostics menu in the activities section of the left margin. This routine will copy the PROXI into the PCM and write the PCM VIN. Manually enter the VIN into the PCM using the “Check PCM VIN” misc function under PCM.
Select the PCM view and then select the “ Misc Functions ” menu.
In the PCM “ Misc Functions ” menu, select and run the “ Learn ETC ” routine. This routine is necessary to learn the throttle position voltages and the accelerator pedal position. Follow the prompts shown on the diagnostic scan tool.
In the PCM “ Misc Functions ” menu, perform the “ Cruise Control Learn ” routine. Follow the prompts shown on the diagnostic scan tool.
Module programming is now complete.
Its interesting it says you require the PIN, but none of the steps actually indicate it. Further readings indicate that its appears to be a "Yes or No" message sent to the ECM to tell it to start along with a VIN. So if the VIN is correct, vehicle should start.

What leads me to believing that is the below statement:
Theory of Operation
The Powertrain Control Module (PCM) stores a copy of the vehicle’s module build configuration in its EEPROM. If the stored information in the PCM does not match the information sent over by the Body Control Module (BCM) of what modules are active on the Controlled Area Network (CAN) Bus, the DTC will set.
Set Conditions:
The vehicle’s topology does not match the original factory programming.This can be from a module being added, subtracted, or replaced without performing a proxi alignment procedure.
This DTC can set if the PCM was replaced and the VIN was not programed before the proxi alignment procedure was performed.
With all this said, has anyone had experience with using a used GPEC3 ECU (Chrysler 200) and fitting to a vehicle?


if its of any intrest currently working with two gpec 3 vehicles who purchased one of my unlocked stage 1 tuned gpec3s i use used ecus and had no problems with fca vehicles with the actual key fob you insert into the ignition before i mailed them i matched the vin via alfaobd and they just had to do a proxy alignmet for vehicle to start up however about 2 months ago i got 2 orders one for a 2015 chrysler 200 with push to start and a 2014 dodge dart push to start figured same procedure match vin do proxy no dice took about a month to get the dart up and running by turning off the immobilizer in his bcm pain in the ass but it worked but im not sure im my customer isnt very tech and car savy but he said he went into alfa obd to his bcm same module used in a dart and shut off immobilizer but it still sets off the imoblizer ive sent two ecus to verify it wasnt a problem on my end i know if i got his stock ecu i could read his eeprom data and flash it to a unlocked ecu so he could use the same keys on both ecus but atm i cant really travel due to health and its his daily driver im not sure if figuring out gpec3 skim delete would be best method or if he could possible use a obdlink mx+ to some how read the eeprom file and email it to me but to annswe your question on a chrysler 200 2015 changing the vin alone at least on a 2.4 gpec 3 will not start the vehicle. i have piles of gpec3 rangimng from darts to cherokees and chrysler 200 so if anyone is able to help i can get you various files for comparison thanks
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