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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby VK_3800 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:01 am

vlad01 wrote:The T5 retainer doesn't have anything to support a locating pin or alike, like I see on your TKO.

Didn't come that way, I just removed the bearing retainer and machined it to suit. There's also a screw-on collar pressed onto it. The original Muncie kit actually came with a replacement bearing retainer ready to go.

vlad01 wrote:If it was all ceramic it likely would have lasted longer, but of course machining or replacing flywheels often gets expensive.

The metal surfaces wear equally, pressure plate lost over 1mm and the clutch actually starting slipping while engaged - not a good feeling when overtaking! You'd need a proper steel flywheel face and even then you'd be replacing frequently with the wear rate. Obviously this assumes that the clutch is actually being used to it's potential, don't need anything fancy otherwise.

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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby VK_3800 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 4:05 am

That Howe bearing is still the style where the outer body moves.

Sometimes you can find better options with the radius diaphragm clutch fingers as that seems to be more popular in the US, and run a flat bearing as opposed to the Holden OEM radius bearing and flat clutch. The former fits a little better with the Howe style bearing too.

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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby vlad01 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:05 pm

That's some good valid points.

Regarding the retainer, there are cast iron ones for the GM T5 application that might be better to use as the support for the bearing, a lot stiffer than the alloy one I would imagine and also the right diameter for the Holden application. Only the tube is pretty short but might not matter with the right engineered solution.

https://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/item ... 266839.htm

And there is the Ford one which has a larger tube diameter, but also iron.

https://www.thegearbox.org/catalog/item ... 271715.htm

There is also a jeep one, not sure on the specs but is also an option if it's favourable.
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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby The1 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:56 pm

This all sounds to complicated id just slap a 4L60e in and call it done :lol:

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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby vlad01 » Tue Nov 21, 2023 9:54 pm

Been there done that!
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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby HQ355 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:09 am

Save yourself the effort and dollars and just LS it and TREMEC 6060. Faster cheaper and sounds better

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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby vlad01 » Wed Nov 22, 2023 2:42 pm

I found these a few weeks back, mainly for my nephews 4Runner if the Malwood bearing doesn't work out, but there are some nice options here.

https://apracing.com/drawings/2018%20Pr ... inders.pdf
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Re: Clutch questions. Puck disks etc...

Postby Jayme » Wed Nov 22, 2023 7:57 pm

HQ355 wrote:Save yourself the effort and dollars and just LS it and TREMEC 6060. Faster cheaper and sounds better


This :punk:

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