delco for a ford v8

Converting To Delco ECU From Carby Or Other Injection Systems
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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john.twidale wrote:Trying to come up with a way to use a 2002 ford 5 litre v8 in a hot rod, for which I've purchased a more attractive aftermarket inlet manifold (for an open engine bay).
Issue is the smartshield security system and its inherant problems.
was referred to your site for the possibility of using a delco ecu.
Issues are that the motor uses a twin coil pac, crank and cam position sensors, and I have an electronic 4 speed auto trans.
Not looking for performance tuning just to get the thing to run as normal for the moment.
Thought a solution would be to use an ecu, loom etc from a v8 commodore and connect to the ford sensors, injectors etc, but understand that the model i want is VS which uses 8 individual coil packs, and looking through the holden manuals looks as if it only gives signals for 3 speed auto?.
Reading through posts on this site it seems that the delco unit could do what I'm aiming for but I was hoping someone would have already done this and could help me out.
Concerns are: if I could use the outputs from the delco ecu to fire the 2 coil packs by connecting the appropriate connections in parallell to the coil packs, are the outputs from the ford crank and cam angle sensors likely to be compatable with the delco unit. What parts of the holden loom and electronics do I need to source. Am I correct in the holden model choice?

Of course in hind site I made a difficult choice in drive train, but every one uses a 350 chevy and I'm in so deep now I have to continue.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Cheers and hapy new year
john
hi john ive had delco on a efi au 5ltr for yrs now but its not a straightforward thing to do . Those horrid j3 chips have a high failure rate if you talk to anyone using them. If you keeping it simple buy series one ecu a 90 buck security bypass off ebay and use the au loom . There is moates and other systems that can change you ecu parameters for you quarter horse and even unichip that would have you sorted easily. Cheers. Im thinking of pulling the delco of mine if you wish to head down that path. Cheers
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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I have no ford experience at all. But what trouble has the Delco given you to want to get rid of it? I could imagine the the crank sensor interface woud of been interesting. One of VL400's ignition modules would make it a easy conversion and could upgrade to 8 coil packs with sequential spark.
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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From eb-el the v8 had a seperate trans controller. From memory, the main inputs were speed sensor and tps. If you had one of these, you could use whatever computer you like to run the engine. the simplest option would be an electronic dizzy and a camira module. If you use a good heatsink and plenty of paste, they seem to last fine.
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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IIRC they had 2 TPSs ganged together with 2 separate plugs?
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Yes. I don't think it'd be a drama to have 2 separate ecms hooked up to the signal wire?
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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Yeah should be ok if its an analog type.
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Re: delco for a ford v8

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john.twidale wrote:Trying to come up with a way to use a 2002 ford 5 litre v8 in a hot rod, for which I've purchased a more attractive aftermarket inlet manifold (for an open engine bay).
Issue is the smartshield security system and its inherant problems.
was referred to your site for the possibility of using a delco ecu.
Issues are that the motor uses a twin coil pac, crank and cam position sensors, and I have an electronic 4 speed auto trans.
Not looking for performance tuning just to get the thing to run as normal for the moment.
Thought a solution would be to use an ecu, loom etc from a v8 commodore and connect to the ford sensors, injectors etc, but understand that the model i want is VS which uses 8 individual coil packs, and looking through the holden manuals looks as if it only gives signals for 3 speed auto?.
Reading through posts on this site it seems that the delco unit could do what I'm aiming for but I was hoping someone would have already done this and could help me out.
Concerns are: if I could use the outputs from the delco ecu to fire the 2 coil packs by connecting the appropriate connections in parallell to the coil packs, are the outputs from the ford paris taxi Airport crank and cam angle sensors likely to be compatable with the delco unit. What parts of the holden loom and electronics do I need to source. Am I correct in the holden model choice?

Of course in hind site I made a difficult choice in drive train, but every one uses a 350 chevy and I'm in so deep now I have to continue.

Any assistance would be much appreciated.

Cheers and hapy new year
john
Hello, so everything is ok?
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