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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vlad01 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:43 am

Does your WB have a calibration sequence when starting up? eg. 10->13.3->16.6->20.

These let you dial in your 0 and 5V values until the fixed ref AFRs on the start up sequence matches from dash in TP to the specified values. The physical gauge also can be out as a lot of them use the analog input which can cause the same sort of offset if the gauge isn't also calibrated and I am pretty sure most if not all gauges don't offer any sort of calibration.

So calibrate the WB in TP and ignore the physical gauge. I have used an innovate I think? in the past and it's gauge was off.
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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vscapricetim » Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:50 pm

I have an innovate mtx-l so I don't think it has that start up function. Just calibrate in the open air. I have set 0v at 7.35afr and 5v at 22.39afr as per the instructions

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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vlad01 » Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:15 pm

Bugga! that's not much help then. I use the 14point7 controller without gauges and it says 0v 10 afr and 5v 20 afr but when looking in TP both values were off some so I found out the controller sequences 10,13.3,16.6,20 at start up so I adjusted the 0v and 5v until all of the sequence values were spot on in TP. I have 2 controllers and they were both slightly different and different again with each ECU I used them on.
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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vscapricetim » Fri Jun 24, 2022 11:14 am

Hmmmm. What's the point of a gauge if it's out haha I'm happy just to log through the ecu and not worry bout the gauge if I've set it up correctly

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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vlad01 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:28 pm

Exactly! I think most other reputable brands these days use a gauge that uses a digital link to the controller, eliminating such issues.

I have always avoided innovate stuff, imho they are garbage that happen to have a brand name behind them which many end up buying and not knowing they aren't that flash.

I am hearing the AEM ones are good and have quickly got a good rep. I don't know what the current 14Point7 ones are like but they were a solid and simple product when I purchased my 1st and 2nd gen Spartan controllers. I think they are on their 3rd gen now which is way different and more capable, but being a box is rather bulky for in car installation if you want a permanent install.
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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vscapricetim » Fri Jun 24, 2022 3:47 pm

Yeah well that does suck! I bought it years ago but now have only found the time to get it installed and start using it..

I may have to just get used to knowing it'll be 1.5afr lean all the time which could be a pain in the ass.

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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vlad01 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:21 pm

Maybe you can do a crude calibration against a standard o2 sensor readout in TP? Assuming you have more than one bung in the exhaust.
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Re: vs v8 vortech

Postby vscapricetim » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:40 pm

Exhaust has the standard o2 sensor, a bunged port and the wideband

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