Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

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Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby Humptydumpty » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:56 pm

Hi all,

I’m looking at getting my setup tuned on dyno.

It’s a 304 series 3 with a vp ecu/loom fitted to a Toyota Bundera

I’ve been told there’s no pint in getting Dyno tune if it’s stock just go a good retuned memcal?

I thought as it’s in a completely different t setup it would make sense? Thoughts?


Also Im trying to understand how to check what pulse rate the ecu is receiving from the vss module/drive I’ve installed. :punk:

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby vlad01 » Thu Sep 26, 2019 6:56 pm

There is no way around it but a dyno tune for proper tuning. Once you use a dyno you realize that any other means is just guess work. Only exception is fueling which can be done accurately on road as well as dyno, spark though is only possible to get accurate via the dyno.


As for your conversion, it really depends on the exhaust which can make a big change to advance and fueling requirements if say going from stock to tuned headers. If not than stock memcal will be good enough or a known tickled up one.
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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby VX L67 Getrag » Thu Sep 26, 2019 9:20 pm

Only other thing to say about it is... if someone has tuned a similar setup on a dyno before they know where the limits are with timing/torque/power and then can be done with fuel on road with a wideband log!

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby gtrboyy » Fri Sep 27, 2019 10:04 pm

Road or dyno tune would be the better way to go about it.

Have had a couple mail-order tunes for stock engines no issues except current v8 conversion with unknown engine & small cam...chasing my tale with weird issues.

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby Yortt » Tue Oct 01, 2019 5:00 pm

An alternate view…..forget-the-bloody-dyno

I believe this is even more appropriate today as compared to back then due to the improvement in data logging technology.

http://blog.autospeed.com/2005/12/04/fo ... -the-road/

And please don't shoot the messenger!

Tune with actual data not simulated data!.....Applied Road/track Tuning

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby Holden202T » Thu Oct 03, 2019 12:43 pm

both options have a very valid place, theres some things you just cant do unless your on a dyno and there are some situations you just cant simulate on the dyno and need rear world driving to do...

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby delcowizzid » Thu Oct 03, 2019 6:39 pm

I've tuned a dirt track car in a paddock with wideband then a fed years later put it on the dyno for a tweak gained 100nm right through the rev range.ive had na 304s on there that I've street tuned and gained 5kw and hold the power a little bit further but no huge difference but it's faster easier and safer and for high power car like the vb v6 turbo that get no traction its a dream 2 degrees timing and a little trim on the fuel can pick up 50hp that you can't even tell on the street struggling for grip lol
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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby vlad01 » Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:00 pm

^ this.

And on my car I found I had to pull a ton of timing out, made the exact same power but way safer tune. On the road I could not tell a thing going on with the spark map, there was no change in the feel. Dyno told me I was way over advancing the timing.
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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby VX L67 Getrag » Thu Oct 03, 2019 9:40 pm

It all brings me back to if you know the setup you know how to tune it to suit what is needed & then finish off on the street for drivability!

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Re: Dyno tune versus a memcal tune

Postby Yortt » Fri Oct 04, 2019 11:37 am

Interesting balanced responses, I would be interested to know what areas of tuning that cannot be done without a dyno.

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