vy flash pcm locked

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drippy
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vy flash pcm locked

Post by drippy »

ok so tonight i was wanting to flash a different tune on my vy but for some reason i couldnt connect and was asking for a security key??

i have never used a security key ( dont even know how to put one on the pcm)
i am running the enhanced bin's but have been able to flash it a few times before without any drama's

has anyone got any suggestions on how i can fix this?

here is a dump of what the flash tool has shown if it helps

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11:26:15 PM     Waiting For 15 mS Of Silence
11:26:15 PM     Silence Detected, waited 15mS
11:26:15 PM     Requesting Chatter To Be Disabled For Device F7
11:26:15 PM     Chatter Disabled
11:26:15 PM     Searching For OSE Device...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Found Something, But Not OSE Device...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For RT Modified Factory Device...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For RT Modified Factory Device...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For RT Modified Factory Device...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker Devices...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker SP3
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDS00
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDS20/WDS21/WDS30
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDS40/WDS41/WDS60/WDS61/WDS70
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDS65
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDS50/WDS51
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker WDSB3/WDSB4/WDSB5
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Kalmaker BDS60
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For Factory Devices...
11:26:15 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:15 PM     Request Sent
11:26:15 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:15 PM     Requesting Security Seed
11:26:15 PM     Security Seed Is FFFF
11:26:15 PM     Security Key Is 934E
11:26:15 PM     Sending Security Key
11:26:15 PM     The PCM Rejected The Key
11:26:18 PM     Searching For ECM...Attempt 1...
11:26:18 PM     Request Sent
11:26:19 PM     Device Found, Identifying...
11:26:19 PM     Unknown ECM/PCM Found, Ask User
11:26:19 PM     Please Submit This Code For Vehicle Support: b22b8e8ce2a4445e05b05d7a28c0cb59
11:26:19 PM     Waiting For 15 mS Of Silence
11:26:19 PM     Silence Detected, waited 15m
vn5000
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Re: vy flash pcm locked

Post by vn5000 »

Looks like the security section may have been erased or programmed with all 0xff.
If it asks for a key maybe try 0xFF ,0xFF
Also looking at the calculated key ,the algorithm must be very similar to ls1 pcms.
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Re: vy flash pcm locked

Post by VL400 »

Yeah like vn5000 said, looks like a blank cal has been written.

The PCM was locked by Holden when it was produced but the flashtool normally handles that for you unless a custom lock has been used. There is also a key finder under the tools menu of the flashtool, its takes a little while but no where near as long as LS1 PCMs.
drippy
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Re: vy flash pcm locked

Post by drippy »

I tried that code it didn't work so I'm going through the key finder process now, how long can this possibly take to find the key?

When you say blank cal, do you mean part of the cal wasn't written correctly or the whole lot? Because the car drives okay atm...


Edit.
It's there anyway to write a new tune over the old one? Or does it require the code to do that? I've ran the key finder for 2 hours so far with no luck :(
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Re: vy flash pcm locked

Post by vn5000 »

You wont be able to reflash till you have the code,theres 65535 combinations ,on an ls1 pcm it can take me up to 5 days to unlock them depending on key value.
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Re: vy flash pcm locked

Post by VL400 »

On these flash PCMs there is no delay between attempts so is much quicker. Never timed it, but its hours and not days luckily.

As the seed was FFFF the key is possibly the same, surprised it didnt work.
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