V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

They go by many names, P01, P59, VPW, '0411 etc. Also covering E38 and newer here.
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V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

Post by Cincinnatus »

So I like the 3800 supercharged PCM for boost builds because I don't want to tune. I just want it to work, and it does, but I would love if I could run 4l60 or 4l80 behind it. They never made rwd boosted, so no stock exists, but wondering if trans segment swap is possible? Anyone done it?
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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If it's not the same OS it's not going to work ...

There are no OS's that were used on both, so no, it's not going to work.
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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so i tried to read a fwd pcm today and it didn't work. i saved the debug log and i'll post it.
[02:27:48:037] PCM Hammer - TEST BUILD 018-824-9.1 (8/5/2021, 3:52 AM)
[02:27:48:037] Initializing J2534 Device
[02:27:48:069] Loaded DLL. (Success)
[02:27:50:631] Connected to the device. (Success)(0x00000000)
[02:27:50:662] Battery Voltage is: 12.354
[02:27:52:053] Protocol Set
[02:27:52:100] Device initialization complete.
[02:27:57:725] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 01
[02:27:57:788] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 01 00 31 47 32 57 52
[02:27:57:788] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 02
[02:27:57:850] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 02 35 32 31 38 58 46
[02:27:57:850] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 03
[02:27:57:897] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 03 32 30 39 31 37 36
[02:27:57:897] VIN: 1G2WR5218XF209176
[02:27:57:913] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 0A
[02:27:57:975] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 0A 00 F7 D9 52
[02:27:57:975] OS ID: 16243026
[02:27:57:975] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 08
[02:27:58:100] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 08 00 F7 D6 58
[02:27:58:100] Calibration ID: 16242264
[02:27:58:116] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 04
[02:27:58:179] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 04 00 8E C8 80
[02:27:58:179] Hardware ID: 9357440
[02:27:58:179] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 05
[02:27:58:257] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 05 32 44 37 32
[02:27:58:257] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 06
[02:27:58:319] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 06 54 51 38 32
[02:27:58:319] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 07
[02:27:58:382] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 07 34 30 FC EE
[02:27:58:382] Serial Number: 2D72TQ8240
[02:27:58:397] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 14
[02:27:58:460] RX: 6C F0 10 7F 3C 14 31
[02:27:58:460] Received an unexpected response. Attempt #1, status UnexpectedResponse.
[02:28:00:476] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:00:476] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:00:476] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:02:491] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:02:491] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:02:491] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:04:507] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:04:507] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:04:507] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:06:523] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:06:523] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:06:523] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:08:539] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:08:539] Receive timed out. Attempt #6, Timeout #5.
[02:28:08:539] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 14
[02:28:08:617] RX: 6C F0 10 7F 3C 14 31
[02:28:08:617] Received an unexpected response. Attempt #1, status UnexpectedResponse.
[02:28:10:632] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:10:632] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:10:632] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:12:648] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:12:648] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:12:648] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:14:664] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:14:664] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:14:664] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:16:664] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:16:664] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:16:664] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:18:680] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:18:680] Receive timed out. Attempt #6, Timeout #5.
[02:28:18:680] BCC query failed: Error
[02:28:18:695] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C A0
[02:28:18:758] RX: 6C F0 10 7C A0 00
[02:28:18:758] MEC: 0
[02:28:34:134] Will save to C:\Users\Cincinnatus\Desktop\bin files\99-3800.bin
[02:28:42:728] Querying operating system of current PCM.
[02:28:42:744] TX: 6C 10 F0 3C 0A
[02:28:42:806] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 0A 00 F7 D9 52
[02:28:42:806] OSID: 16243026
[02:28:42:822] Suppressing VPW chatter.
[02:28:42:822] TX: 6C FE F0 28 00
[02:28:42:837] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[02:28:42:837] TX: 8C FE F0 3F
[02:28:42:884] RX: 6C F0 10 68 00
[02:28:42:884] Ignoring chatter: 6C F0 10 68 00
[02:28:42:884] Sending seed request.
[02:28:42:884] TX: 6C 10 F0 27 01
[02:28:42:947] RX: 6C F0 10 67 01 66 9C
[02:28:42:947] Parsing seed value.
[02:28:42:962] Sending unlock request (669C, F6E7)
[02:28:42:962] TX: 6C 10 F0 27 02 F6 E7
[02:28:43:025] RX: 6C F0 10 67 02 35
[02:28:43:025] The PCM didn't accept the unlock key value
[02:28:45:041] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:45:041] No response to unlock request. Attempt #2
[02:28:47:056] ReadMsgs OBDError: ERR_BUFFER_EMPTY
[02:28:47:056] No response to unlock request. Attempt #3
[02:28:47:978] RX: 6C F0 10 60
[02:28:47:978] Unlock response truncated, expected 6 bytes, got 4 bytes.
[02:28:47:978] Unable to process unlock response.
[02:28:47:978] Unlock was not successful.
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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As I've already stated, PcmHammer does not work on the v6 fwd (3.8) ... That PCM has BLUE and CLEAR connectors and is called a P04.
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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looks like it is very close to giving a bin. just wondering what it will take to read and write one of these?
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Slight PcmHammer redesign ... See here: V6 ability for pcm hammer.
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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What a read. I also discovered the lsdroid. Anyone here used it for v6? Funny thing, I have antivirus off, but chrome and edge refuse to allow download of lsdroid for windows. States it's a known virus and won't even let me allow it like every other .exe I've downloaded. Guardrails built in to browsers now....so annoying when you know what you're trying to do
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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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Yes I have used ls-droid and it will do what you want with the obdlink bluetooth or the OBDX Pro interface. I noticed the AV thing as well the other day. Its trusted software but I think they have some kind of security and a security researcher who didnt do their job well enough submitted it as a malware site. I found the site, found the submitter but I need a twitter account to contact them. You can send an issue to the github malware repo and request the site be whitelisted but I couldnt find my github login at the time. Maybe someone else wants to suggest to them that they take another look.

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Re: V6 fwd trans segment swap to rwd

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Thanks Antus. I'll give it a try
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