VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

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VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Wed May 29, 2019 11:30 am

This is my first post here .
I have read for many hours and getting aquainted with most things but I may have bricked my cluster.

The trouble is that i cant remember when it died as i was chasing an airbag fault with Tazzies software and used efilive and tuner pro .

now when i turn the ignition to on there are no warning lights but the lcd warnings do show eg air bag and check engine ( the alternator is faulty but the battery is charged well as it has been on charge and is a new one).

My question is what controls the warning lights ?
bcm cluster pcm??

What option are open to me ?

I can remove the cluster but what would i put in it to bring the lights back?

The car cranks and runs ok ....I know that i must have done something silly.

I also used arrow to set a different logo but i was careful not to push any other buttons......

HHHEEEELLLPPPP Please .

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Thu May 30, 2019 2:03 pm

Update ...

I have removed the cluster and it is apparent that the lights are not wired thru the smarts and are sent by possibly the bcm...which means that i somehow have my bcm in a mode that is not what i want .
this is a vy ute with no abs ..basic
perhaps i need to re zap it with ...what file ?

im abit scared to get this wrong as i already must have .

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby antus » Thu May 30, 2019 5:52 pm

depends which warning lights, but eg for SRS the dash will ask the SRS modules if anything is set on power on. If it cant talk to the SRS, or if the SRS reports a problem the light will come on, and stay on. If you tell the dash to clear the lights i'll ask the module the same question at next start up, and turn it back on. You need to fix the fault, then reset the lights in the dash (and maybe in other modules) to keep them off. Cant give you more specifics, but thats the general idea.
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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby vs ss » Thu May 30, 2019 6:25 pm

As Antus pointed out each one comes from a different source so I think it will be the cluster. The Srs light gets the message straight from the srs module, the oil light goes pcm>bcm>cluster and the alt light comes straight from the alt.
Is this a v8 or v6?

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Thu May 30, 2019 7:42 pm

Thanks for the replies

Yes a v6 auto

the problem is that the lights dont come on at all ...indicators work and the secutiry light flashes...but thats it !

I have got afew contact retailer on the lcd and the airbag (when i trigger it) diaplays on the lcd and chimes .

when i fix the fault by reconnecting the clock spring and clear the code it clears ok . just dead warning lights when you switch the ignition on.

this only happened after tring to get tunerpro then efi live to connect ....I did it somehow ...i should fix it more specifically when i know what module it has to be .

it is possible that there is a fault as it has not been well cared for ...but past experience say the wehn you are doing something while learning , stuffups are expected.

Thanks for any other pointers for this .

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Thu Jun 13, 2019 9:09 pm

I managed to find arrow software and was able to reset the lights in the cluster to working .
Setting poll to true and a diy max232 aldl cable did the trick.

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Fri Jun 14, 2019 12:43 pm

Here is the aldl citcuit that worked with Arrow ..other cables bought and diy were not successfull ...in fact they made the lights disfunctional perhaps noise?

I supplied the 5 volts via the 12 v on the car aldl port and used a 7805 regulator .
I used a usb to rs232 prolific cable for the computer end.
I can only hope that this may prevent somebody from having similar issues .
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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby delcowizzid » Fri Jun 14, 2019 1:10 pm

Even the old techedge 2 transistor design works with the arrow software and the usb aldl cable from here
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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby nikolatesla » Fri Jun 14, 2019 7:12 pm

Yes I had some success but the circuit posted gave much more consistant results .

I may have variables that are unique however,just reporting my experiences with almost bricking my cluster.

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Re: VY No cluster lights (engine srs etc..)

Postby j_ds_au » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:07 am

Good olde RS-232!

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