Convert V6 Netres To V8

[krusty]

I have an ATFY (VN V6) memcal here and need to convert it to V8. If I cut the 2 resistor legs as per Dec_heads' pic above will the memcal still retain limp home and knock filtering? I need knock filtering as hte car I'm tuning is an HSV with a factory knock sensor.

Failing not having knock filtering on the memcal is it a simple case of a trip to Jaycar for some resistors or the like and a solder job or are the parts car specific?

[Jayme]

the limp settings will be suited to v6 so wont run right on a v8 if you hit limp mode. the v6 knock filter is beyond useless on a v8, you will be getting false knock everywhere.

[krusty]

Just found out that my mate whos car I'm tuning bought a new knock sensor during the rebuild and it came with a V8 knock board.

If I de solder the V6 knock board, cut the 2nd and 5th resistor post as per Dec_heads pic and then re solder the new V8 knock board will it be a correctly functioning V8 Memcal with limp home and correct knock features?

I know it seems like alot of trouble but I'd rather go through these excercises to get my skills up.

The top pic is the New V8 knock board and the bottom is the V6 Memcal as it is now

[Jayme]

yes it will funciton as a v8 memcal and knock sensor, no its limp mode will still be set to v6 settings and will run like poo. whether or not you will notice... who knows, they run like poo in limp mode anyway.

edit: actually I only cut the 5th leg. look at the diagram between the v6 and v8 netres, that is the only difference for cylinder selection.

[krusty]

O.k., so cut the 5th 15k leg and swap the V6 knock board for the V8 one and kiss limp home mode good bye lol. Sounds like a plan

[kojab]

You will also have to change the eprom too if you plan on using 12p. ATFY is only 128k good for VN - VP

Cheers
Dick

EDIT

PS My records show that a knock buffer starting with "2U" is for a V6.

[VL400]

Yeah the U model filters have been found on V6's so might need to check it out further to confirm ... https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopi ... 9&hilit=2h

Would be great to have a definitive list of what filter is for what as there is a fair amount of conflicting info around - not to mention dodgy sellers like yoda69 found in the linked thread.

[kojab]

Info supplied by Dicks Electronics

NOTE: BR/B = Brown body
BL/B = Black body

AANM 2770 V8 BR/B 16040581 796 8605 503 = 128K
ABTD 0731 V8 BR/B 69300 D 5012A L627521SX = 128K
ABTK 0739 V8 BR/B 014P 69300 AC8633B 5DBB = 128K
BUA 9340 V8 BR/B 40581 A 5012A T5250620S = 128K
HWR-5164 CARRIER TYPE USA 014 B8527 P/N 16032500? = 32K
AFDZ 3625 4CYL BR/B (USA TYPE) 014P 69300 AB8647B 5DBB = 128K BUF 1B6248

AHLU 6173 PULSAR 16069300 27C256/5DBB D 5012AP U72458MSX= 256K
DEFAULT CHIPS 16035010 & 16035011

AKFL 2168 4CYL BR/B 16069300 27C256/5DBB D 5012AP U704007SX= 256K
DEFAULT CHIPS 16067752 & 16067753
ALFW 4940 4CYL
AMBX 7274 V8 BR/B 014P 69300 AB8711B 5DBB = 128K BUF 1F7195
APNX 1687 V6 VN BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U90402MSX = 128K BUF 1H9040
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U0120253S = 128K BUF 2H0131
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U012194MS = 128K BUF 4H0088
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U026011MS = 128K BUF 1H0178
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 1606 ALDP8942 980 9300 1128 = 128K BUF 1H0004
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 1606 ALDP8943 980 9300 1122 = 128K BUF 5H9311
ATFY 4410 V6 BR/B 1606 ALDP9034 980 9300 1416 = 128K BUF 1H0225
AMXY 4CYL BR/B 16069300 27C128 E 5012AC U827005SX = 128K
AFTZ 9887 V8 BR/B 1606 LAE8836 980 9300 0678 = 128K
AFUA 0966 V8 VN BR/B 1606 ALAE8842 980 9300 0760 = 128K
ATJN 9297 V8 VN BR/B 1606 ALDP8930 980 9300 1024 = 128K BUF 1F9216
ATJN 9297 V8 VN BR/B 1606 BLDP9201 980 9300 1943 = 128K BUF 1F9338
ATJN 9297 V8 VN BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U0119000S = 128K BUF IF9317
ATJR 4357 V6 VN BR/B 16069300 AD27C128 E 5012AC U91904MSX = 128K BUF 1H9138
ASBX 9285 V8 VN BR/B 1606 ALDP9038 980 9300 1484 = 128K
ASBX 9285 V8 BR/B 1606 BLDP9234 980 9300 2083 = 128K NO BUFFER.
ASRS 3169 V8 VN BR/B 1606 ALDP9006 980 9300 1171 = 128K BUF 1F9317
AXFY V8 VN BR/B 1606 ALDP9037 980 9300 1467 = 128K BUF 1F0202
AWUY 9398 V6 VP BR/B 1606 ALDP9116 980 9300 1689 = 128K BUF 4H1035
BABR 3575 V6 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9209 980 9300 1954 = 128K BUF 2H2029
BAYA V8 BR/B 1606 BLDP9235 980 9300 2101 = 128K BUF 1F0202
BAYA 7003 V8 BL/B 014 69300 B0018AB BLUE CHIPS (NEW STOCK)128K BUF 1F6180
AWUY 9398 V6 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9236 980 9300 2109 = 128K BUF 1H2323
AWUZ 9402 V6 VP BR/B 1606 ALDP9120 980 9300 1729 = 128K BUF 1H1109
BAAM 0265 V6 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9210 980 9300 1995 = 128K BUF 2H2172
BAAM 0265 V6 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9251 980 9300 2210 = 128K BUF 1H3060
BAAM 0265 V6 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9234 980 9300 2082 = 128K BUF 1H2227
BAAP 6945 V8 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9309 980 9300 2313 = 128K
BBMP 9080 V8 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9149 980 9300 1930 = 128K BUF 1F9338
BBPA 0283 V8 VP BR/B 1606 BLDP9235 980 9300 2107 = 128K NO BUFFER.
AFTX 7330 V6 VN BR/B 1606 L8814 980 9300 0497 = 128K BUF 2H8011
AJUN 0094 4CYL BR/B 1606 L8742 980 9300 0288 = 128K NO BUFFER.
APNX 1687 V6 VN BR/B 1606 L8817 980 9300 0551 = 128K BUF 2H8147

AMDC 8384 4CYL ( USA TYPE ) = 256K
AMDD 8389 4CYL BR/B 014 045915 AC8812B ( USA TYPE ) = 256K BUF 1C8139
AMDD 8389 4CYL BR/B 014 45915 AE8650B ( USA TYPE ) = 245K BUF 1C6336
AMDF 8394 4CYL BR/B 014 045915 AA8752B ( USA TYPE ) = 256K BUF 1C8037
BFFM V8 VR BR/B 014 89388 B9310 BLACK CHIPS = 256K NO BUFFER.
BFPM V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9452AP BLACK CHIPS = 256K BUF 1F4160
BFPM 2422 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9945AB BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1F6180
BFPM 2422 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9922AV BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1F6180
BFPM 2422 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9938AB BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1F6180
BFPM 2422 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9641AD BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1F6052
BKCY 0500 V6 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9341 BLACK CHIPS = 256K BUF 1U3312
BLCD 5077 V6 VR BL/B 014 89388 B0023AD BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 3U9061
BLCD 5077 V6 VR BL/B 014 89388 B0036AB BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 3U9061
BLCD 5077 V6 VR BL/B 014 89388 B0030AD BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1U9114
BLCD 5077 V6 VR BL/B 014 89488 B0106AF BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 3U9061
BLCF 5084 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9438AB = 256K NO BUFFER.
BJKS 8010 V8 VR BR/B 014 89388 B9329 BLACK CHIPS = 256K NO BUFFER.
BJKS 8010 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9335 = 256K NO BUFFER.
BKBK V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9404 5.7L = 256K BUF
BKBK 0140 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9411 = 256K BUF 1F1043
BKBK 0140 V8 VR BL/B 014 89388 B9734AB BLUE CHIPS(NEW STOCK)256K BUF 1F6180
BMZL 1790 V8 VS = 256K BUF
BMZN 1796 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B953OAD BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K BUF 1F4160
BMZN V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9534YV BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K BUF 1F5238
BMZN 1796 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9628AG BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K BUF 1F6052
BWFW 0312 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9631AD BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
BWFW 0312 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9810AB BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
BLJX 6413 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9529AH BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
BLJX 6413 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9604TF BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
BLJX 6413 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9531AF BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
BLJX 6413 V8 VS BL/B 014 89388 B9545TF BLUE CHIPS (BU) = 256K NO BUFFER.
CBXD 7066 4CYL "BLUE" M27C256B -20F3 P882B ST 9735E SINGAPO = 256K NO BUFFER.

BNAM 2001 4CYL "WHITE"014 67633 B9447BB OPAL ENGINE = 512K NO BUFFER.
BKCZ 0504 V6 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9333 = 512K BUF 1U3244
BKCZ 0504 V6 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9337 = 512K BUF 1U3246
BKCZ 0504 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9337 = 512K BUF 1U3250
BKCZ 0504 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9340 = 512K BUF 1U3289
BKCZ 0504 V6 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9332 = 512K BUF 1U3235
BKDA 0509 V6 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9332 = 512K BUF 1U3235
BLCC 5074 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9408 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0298 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9350 = 512K BUF 1U4031
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9405 = 512K BUF 1U4012
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9404 = 512K BUF 1U4053
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9350 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0262 = 512K BUF 1U4068
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9408 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0300 = 512K BUF 1U4122
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9408 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0300 = 512K BUF 1U4164
BLCB 5067 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9433 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0388 = 512K BUF 4U4220
BLCH 5094 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9408 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0306 = 512K BUF 1U4199
BLCJ 5097 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9350 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0264 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BJKT 8015 V8 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9317 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BJKT 8015 V8 VR BR/B 1616 BLUP9320 980 7633 0431 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BJMF 9166 V8 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9335 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BMZA 1754 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9433 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0397 = 512K BUF 1U4232
BMZC 1766 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9440 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0411 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BNLJ 3965 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9433 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0389 = 512K BUF 1U4213
BPLY 9211 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9440 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0411 = 512K BUF 1U4318
BPLZ 9214 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLU53A3YDP NGAPORE 7633 980 = 512K BUF 1U5046
BPML 9318 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLU51A0JFP NGAPORE 7633 980 = 512K BUF 1F4160
BPMM 9317 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLU4BA29NP NGAPORE 7633 980 = 512K BUF 1F4160
BTXN 5606 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLU51A0JFP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1U5059
CAKF 2791 V6 VR BL/B 1616 BLU6BAEJ7P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 2U6354
BWFZ 0433 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A5NRP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.

CKUP 4125 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU6BA876P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6180

V8 512K
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BMZD V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLU4BA29NP NGAPORE 7633 980 = 512K NO BUFFER.
V8 BL/B 1616 BLUP9433 SINGAPORE 7633 980 0394 = 512K BUF 1F4160
ZBMZK355 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A0JFP NGAPORE 7633 980 = 512K BUF 1F4160
CHIPTOR V8 VR BL/B MX A9508 27C512 QC-15 M24152 VPP 12.5V= 512K BUF 1F5238
BFPL 2416 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLU51A494P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F4160
BFPL 2416 V8 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9333 (BLACK CHIPS) = 512K BUF 1F0302
BHNF 5619 V8 VR BR/B 014 67633 B9322 = 512K NO BUFFER.
BKBJ 0136 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9433 NGAPORE 7633 980 (BK) = 512K BUF 1F1043
BMZK 1786 V8 VS BR/B 1616 BLU6BA7T9P NGAPORE 7633 980 NEW = 512K BUF 1F6180
BPMB 9222 V8 VR BL/B 1616 BLUP9440 NGAPORE 7633 980 (BK) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BPMN 9322 V8 VR BR/B 1616 BLU6BA7T9P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6180
BPYS 1476 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A5NRP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BK) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BPYS 1476 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BRBH 2675 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWCS 9976 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU53A3YDP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6052
BWCS 9976 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU53A3YDP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F5238
BWCS 9976 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A494P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6052
BWCS 9976 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU6BAEJ7P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6180
BWCT 9978 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K BUF 1F6052
BWCU 9977 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU4BA29NP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWCU 9977 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU53A3YDP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWCW 9975 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWCW 9975 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU53A3YDP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWFU 0310 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWFU 0310 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU6BAEJ7P NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BWFZ 0433 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU51A68FP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
CKUN 4122 V8 VS BL/B 1616 BLU6BA8JNP NGAPORE 7633 980 (BU) = 512K NO BUFFER.
BFFK 1287 V6 VR BL/B 014 67633 B9317 = 512K BUF 1U3157

BKKF 4259 V6 TURB0 014 67633 B9421AN USA TYPE SMALL = 512K BUF 1334104
1386 MARKINGS ON WINDOW STICKER 4165/1618 2804

BLYN 8253 V6 ?? BL/B 014 67633 B9323 WHITE LABEL BLYN 8253 = 512K BUF 1U3180
ABOVE CHIP IS FOR AUSTRALIAN LP-GAS



BMZJ 1782 V6 VS 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9512AG = 1024K
ABOVE CHIP IS FOR AUSTRALIAN LP-GAS

BPYP 1466 V6 VS MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9504FG ECO = 1024K
BPYR 1471 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9418AK ECO = 1024K
BTBP 3243 V6 VS 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9630AB ECO = 1024K
BTBS 3251 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM = 1024K
BTXP 5610 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9644AB ECO = 1024K
BWLS 1281 V6 VS MAN 32 PIN EPROM O14 07957 B9618TB ECO = 1024K
BWLU 1285 V6 VS MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B0212AB ECO = 1024K
BWPJ 1640 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9618TB ECO = 1024K
BWPJ 1640 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9630AB ECO = 1024K
BWPK 1634 V6 VS MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9618TB = 1024K
BSTK 1451 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM = 1024K
BRHP 6563 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9512AG = 1024K
CKUL 4113 V6 VS 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9823AF = 1024K
CKUM 4116 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9814AB = 1024K
CXAJ 1848 V6 VS AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9950AB = 1024K
CFZC 8251 V8 VT MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9732AB = 1024K
CFZF 8259 V8 VT MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9728AB = 1024K
CJKU 1912 V6 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9830AK = 1024K
CJDN 1927 V8 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9733AD = 1024K
CJDP 1932 V8 VT MAN 32 PIN EPROM = 1024K
CJKW 1922 V6 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9733AD = 1024K
CJYM 3003 V8 VT MAN 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B0048AB = 1024K
CNPC 3157 V8 VT MAN PROGRAMED FOR VS UTE
CNPK 3181 V8 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9903AN = 1024K
CXWH 1935 V6 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM = 1024K
DDRH 2640 V6 VX AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B0048AB = 1024K
DJLX 4957 V6 ?? AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B0028AB = 1024K
DARC 4389 V6 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B9926AB = 1024K
DDRF 2639 V6 VT AUTO 32 PIN EPROM 014 07957 B0015AD = 1024K


KEITHSUP.VS VS MAN DONGLE GAL16V8D ETCHED 32 = 256K NO BUFFER.
253SUPCH DONGLE PAL CE16V8Q ETCHED KAL32M = 256K NO BUFFER.
USED ON GEMINI DONGLE GAL16V8D KALA32MB KAL SOFTWARE MSA28 BUF 1H3128
STA TVRA152 VR AUTO DONGLE KALB64MB KAL SOFTWARE MSA28 = 512K BUF 1R9266
PAT3663 VR AUTO DONGLE DCL164 = 512K BUF 1R4327
STA TVSA152 AUTO DONGLE PAINTED GREEN = 512K BUF 1R4327
VNL67SCC.N05 MAN DONGLE KAL Software MSA28 NDS032M = 512K BUF 2H1109

[VL400]

Thanks for posting that up, a very detailed and large list!

[Doctor Bob]

as far as i was aware the code on the knock board is the date code