OSE 11P V104

[Holden202T]

i *think* if you loaded a $11P bin file into tunerpro, then did the download button to get your cal, then save bin file it should be complete and would work, but i don't know for sure.

also if you have setup things like custom message scheduling, eg. for vs vats and such, then you wont get that from the ecm unless you use flashtool and do a get bin.

[antus]

Its an optimisation inside oseplugin for tunerpro. If you go to the oseplugin config page there is a box "calibration area only" and you can deselect "read". Then oseplugin will allow grabbing the whole bin when you hit download. Without making this change it just returns blanks. Doing this will more than double the time it takes for a complete download in tunerpro. However most people use the flash tool like you have done when they want a whole bin, so it is probably the best option to keep doing what you are doing now and keep oseplugin configured as is for fast downloads.

Tunerpros behaviour without oseplugin will be different.

[4wheelinls1]

if your scantool doesnt communciate, it means the code isnt running. how are you pulling the bin off the nvram to burn to the memcal? you cannot just use the bin file you download through the OSE plugin emulation, as it is an incomplete bin file that doesnt contain code. (for speed sake while tuning it only downloads the first 7kb of the bin, if you look in a hex editor, the rest of it will be empty)

try pulling the bin file off the nvram using a 'get bin' from the OSE flashtool?

Sorry just so I understand, I was not using the flashtool and pulling Cal only I was using the Tunerpro RT Bin file that I had tuned on the dyno starting with the modified $11 VR Program. I would have though that to be the full Bin. Is it just the 424 ecu that does this? It's never been an issue with the 808 and the 12P.


Cheers

[4wheelinls1]

Its an optimisation inside oseplugin for tunerpro. If you go to the oseplugin config page there is a box "calibration area only" and you can deselect "read". Then oseplugin will allow grabbing the whole bin when you hit download. Without making this change it just returns blanks. Doing this will more than double the time it takes for a complete download in tunerpro. However most people use the flash tool like you have done when they want a whole bin, so it is probably the best option to keep doing what you are doing now and keep oseplugin configured as is for fast downloads.

Tunerpros behaviour without oseplugin will be different.

Thanks Antus. I have been using the OSE plugin previously but may have inadvertently changed that setting, my main confusion was why I never had an issue with the 808 or VT 5L.

Cheers

[Holden202T]

earlier versions of the oseplugin didn't have the options i believe ?

either way the bin file you posted above was not a complete bin so it would have been the reason for your struggles!

i would have thought, if you load a bin file from the $11P zip file, then realtime tune it, and then save that file that it should be a complete file, but i have never done it that way so i can't confirm.

[antus]

Thats correct. Loading a complete file from disk which you know is in sync with the car and tuning from there then clicking save will keep a complete file on disk. The program code (operating system) is lost only when you pull the initial file from the car with oseplugin in its default configuration, or if you did load the file from disk and click download you will also get in to this situation. Its not a problem for realtime tuning, but should be considered when you want to flash to a memcal/eprom/eeprom.

If you have a bin on disk which is missing the operating system then you can connect to an nvram equipped car running the same bin, upload the calibration, then use the flashtool to pull back a complete copy. OR if you are skilled with binary file manipulation you can merge a complete bin and a calibration area manually, but that is left for the gurus who can figure out where the split is and who can use generic tools to pull it off.

[4wheelinls1]

On a similar note I've just done a $12P into an 808. I read the NVRAM and then looked at the file again in Tunerpro and it looked the same as my tuned file. The vehicle runs fine on the NVRAM with the memcal piggybacked onto the NVRAM and the Dip switches to M. Realtime runs fine, tunes fune. I put a 256k chip in the memcal which was a V6 due to the original one being missing and burnt it nut the car runs incorrectly, no MIL light or fans though. Will the V6 Memcal work or is there something different in the backup chips, if so why is it fine with the same memcal piggybacked onto the NVRAM?

Cheers

[Dylan]

Have you fitted a V6 memcal to a V8?

[4wheelinls1]

Have you fitted a V6 memcal to a V8?

Yes, the memcal in the vehicle was aftermarket so I used a V6 Memcal, I now have the original V8 one the owner dropped in for me so I can move the eprom across to it if the V6 memcal is the issue. I used the same v6 memcal while tuning, I had it on the NVRAM with the M jumper bridged.

Cheers

[Dylan]

When it jumpers onto the NVRAN it doesnt use the memcal for cylinder selection.

Search on here for converting V6 netres to V8.