hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
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Holden202T
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
the afr target is not the issue, the issue is that at that rpm the engine has less or more vaccum than the standard cam so it moves the motor into a different part the the ve table than it would normally be in.think of it more as the ve table is how much air the engine flows at x y load point, change the cam, port the heads, better flowing exhaust, this all means there is different air flow at x y load point, so you need to tell the computer what that new number is so then it can use its calculation to work out how much fuel to put in.
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Dylan
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
Thanks for that, cant wait till I get all my gear sorted and do some tuning.
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vlad01
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
So its just a matter of adjusting the VE table so that the AF table corresponds to the actual WB output over the given AF points on the table?Holden202T wrote:the afr target is not the issue, the issue is that at that rpm the engine has less or more vaccum than the standard cam so it moves the motor into a different part the the ve table than it would normally be in.think of it more as the ve table is how much air the engine flows at x y load point, change the cam, port the heads, better flowing exhaust, this all means there is different air flow at x y load point, so you need to tell the computer what that new number is so then it can use its calculation to work out how much fuel to put in.
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Holden202T
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
have a look at the red link in my signature below, has all the information explained in there how to do it.
No matter what the question is, the answer is always more horsepower! 
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vlad01
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
cheers! didn't know of that document, now I understand heaps better now.
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Holden202T
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
maybe need a brighter or larger red ? 
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hot308vb
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
i had the exact problem with my clubby, after a few weeks a big flat spot would appear and id find a few downward spikes in my ve table so i would fix that up & go for a few more weeks till it did it again untill i figured it was the ve learn causing them, i disabled ve learn and havent had a drama since.
maybe give that a try!
maybe give that a try!
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VL400
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
Were they in the same spot and same value?
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Holden202T
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
actually when I first did testing of VE learn for VL400 I found I was getting similar issue, I raised the minimum rpm for ve learn to work
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Dazza92VP
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Re: hunting and flat spot at 1200 rpm
Yea that's what I did smoothed out the ve table and turned off ve learn