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delcowizzid wrote:toulene is nasty shit dont breath it in ive used it for thinning one brand of spraypaint that required it and i spent a week sick in bed its NASTY shit ide avoid the shit LOL.youll also get looked at buying it due to it being used to make methamphetamine LOL

Cant be as bad as MEK, methyl-ethyl-keytone.

I used some, about a table spoon to clean a PCB outside with breeze heading away from me. After 2-3 min I was high as a kite.

used it couple times real sparingly and have an intolerance to it now lol

damn its nasty. Worst thing is my favorite aerosol can primer "wattyl super etch" contains a fair bit of it and I feel real ill after just 30 sec of spraying in a well ventilated area. in fact I used some today and still feel head achy and tired 6 hours later.

I really need to get a gas mask.

I did fair bit of spraying using xylene and that wasn't too bad. Was way less head spin inducing that general thinners thats for sure.

you can lookup v power fuel MSDS here. Fair bit in it. upto 10%

Benzene, Toluene, Ethylbenzene, n-Hexane, Xylene, Naphthalene, Cyclohexane, Tri-methyl-benzene

http://www.csinfosafe.com/CSIau/SDSIndex.aspx

Where as BP, United etc, usually just have <1% Benzene and the rest is petrol. Some of that stuff like paraffins, cycloparaffins in the vpower can gum up your injectors nicely to

BP have told me in an email that Optimax in Australia is usually around 17% from natural refining not added and from what I have found out overseas it can be as high as 30% (some countries it's banned all together) so I figure it can't be all that bad to use as an octane booster. I know the maximum is 30% and after that it has no more effect but saying that Formula 1 used 85% with the extra 15% being 0 Octane to limit the Octane level. The problem is when it gets too high in concentration it is difficult to start due to high vapor temperatures. I know some people use Xylene and Acetone but I don't have sufficient info to convince me.

BP have told me in an email that Optimax in Australia is usually around 17% from natural refining not added and from what I have found out overseas it can be as high as 30% (some countries it's banned all together) so I figure it can't be all that bad to use as an octane booster. I know the maximum is 30% and after that it has no more effect but saying that Formula 1 used 85% with the extra 15% being 0 Octane to limit the Octane level. The problem is when it gets too high in concentration it is difficult to start due to high vapor temperatures. I know some people use Xylene and Acetone but I don't have sufficient info to convince me.

MEK? Benzine?

Won't you need to tune to get the best out of the additives? I would really consider just biting the bullet and changing over to E85. As has been said, tolulene and Benzine and the other chemicals are nasty. E85 does the same job and smells sweet and is not dangerous to work with, other than its flammability.

Not only that, but I have found it a very forgiving fuel to tune. Some of the boo boo's I have made would have ended really badly if I were on a petrol based fuel.

I know you said you don't want to go that way, but I just thought it had to be said.

I would love to run all my cars on E85 or even E100 but I've never seen one servo sell either of the 2.

where the hell do you buy E85 around here?

You can mail order sucrogen or martini in 200L drums for a racecar. but don't you have united down there? Their's is 107 octane.

Any of these near you?

http://www.unitedpetroleum.com.au/unite ... store-list

Hillside is closest to us Vlad, thats still a 30min drive even for me, sucks really.

Yeah, i'm 25 mins away from my nearest. Not going to work for a road car unless you're happy to carry out jerry cans all the time, but for a race car, I would think you would have to drive further for tolulene/benzine and a $4/litre it make financial sense too.

Sorry to keep pushing it, but I love E85!!!

Anyone used caltex E flex fuel? Heard its not as good but it might be a option.