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Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:52 am
by vs ss
You will need a key head if running a bcm.

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 10:56 am
by Holden202T
you shouldn't though if vats is disabled, the VS BCM controls the starter relay, so if it doesn't get the signal to allow start it doesn't even crank, and if its a VR tune you need it to send the VS info to the bcm to do stuff.

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 11:24 am
by dingo
thank you. current config looked the same as that , i added the VS BCM Fan and wrote with success but still no go?

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:20 pm
by Holden202T
must be something else then, you could try and bypass the start relay and see if it works ?

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:30 pm
by dingo
im lucky enough to still have the security code sticker still on the BCM, is it possible to get another head reprogrammed?

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:38 pm
by dingo
cheaper to get another BCM and head through than through the locksmith :(

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:40 pm
by vs ss
Holden202T wrote:you shouldn't though if vats is disabled, the VS BCM controls the starter relay, so if it doesn't get the signal to allow start it doesn't even crank, and if its a VR tune you need it to send the VS info to the bcm to do stuff.
Vt onwards turning off the vats will allow the bcm to turn starter immobilizer off as well.
On vr/vs the vats and starter is pretty much a seperate system and even with vats removal it will still need a key head or the starter relay earthed.

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 12:52 pm
by dingo
bingo on the relay earth, it cranks a starter motor, will vats still be disabled even though the red light is still flashing?

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:04 pm
by Holden202T
all the vats does is allows the pcm to fire the injectors etc, and if what VS SS is saying is right then you'd need to permanently bypass the start relay to get it to work unless you have a working key head to match the bcm.

Re: OSE 11p '424' to '97 VS V6 4L60E AUTO conversion

Posted: Tue Dec 15, 2015 1:16 pm
by dingo
cool, i will wait till i have the motor in then to see if it fires, maybe find another BCM and head in the meantime. will a VS low/mid level sedan BCM work in place of a VS UTE BCM?