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Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:37 pm
by Holden202T
yeah I agree, just had a good read!!

you shouldn't need a radio anyways if you have a decent exhaust note ;)

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:40 pm
by ejukated
"toalan" is Alan To, the man behind 14point7. Its interesting the comments about the copy&paste circuitry in the LC-1, LC-2 and MTX-L. I wonder if Klaus is still with Innovate

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 2:42 pm
by VL400
I believe he is the one Alan mentiond left and took with the knowledge.

There is no innovate support forum anymore either.

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 3:13 pm
by ejukated
I suspected so. I guess thats the end of the 'innovat'ion then and ontop more copy and paste engineering with nice cases :P . I noticed sometime in the late 2000's the technical articles stopped as well.

Its interesting Alan mentions the Techedge widebands were slow, I've found mine to be the fastest out of Autronics, Innovate and PLX

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:51 pm
by VL400
Spartan arrived today :thumbup: Wired it up and looks good in the startup sequencing, top orange WB is the wideband PCM input while the bottom red is the logger aux input. Blue bottom is the MTX-L on the logger...
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AFAIK, it should sequence 13.33 then 16.66 for 5 seconds each. Maybe 14point7 has changed it slightly as its shorter than 5 seconds and also looks like a 15.0 in there too. In any case, happy with how close it is and how stable it is. Note the nearly 0.1 AFR variance and offset of the MTX-L outputting what was meant to be a stable 15.0 AFR during warmup.

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 6:46 pm
by Dylan
Mine is less than 5 seconds as well. I think my instructions say 10.00 13.30 16.60 20.00 from memory.
And my xdf 0v 5v is something like 9.90 and 21.10 to get this reading in my logs. Im not on my laptop to double check these figures sorry.

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:58 pm
by vlad01
Dylan wrote:Mine is less than 5 seconds as well. I think my instructions say 10.00 13.30 16.60 20.00 from memory.
And my xdf 0v 5v is something like 9.90 and 21.10 to get this reading in my logs. Im not on my laptop to double check these figures sorry.
thats about what I got on mine

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:33 pm
by VL400
Thats some big offsets needed to get accurate numbers! Am still using 10 and 20 for the above.

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:37 pm
by Dylan
I hope I'm doing it right. I read the instructions as that output sequencer being like a calibration tool?
It outputs say 2.5v to simulate an AFR of 16.6 and I adjust my software to match?

I'm very open to suggestion's here it was my 1 and only time setting up anything like this.

Re: Toyota Powered VL Calais

Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 9:40 pm
by VL400
You have it correct, the idea is to use the known output voltages to get the ECU reading the AFR correct by adjusting the two AFR voltage settings in 11P/12P. Was just surprised it was out by 1 AFR point.