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Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 2:06 pm
by antus
Ive read about resistor plugs, and it all looks good in theory. But in more recent times Ive recalled that there is at least 2700ohms resistance in a typical lead, so im wondering how much of a difference 4ohms more in the spark plug would make. Any ideas radio engineers?

Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 4:23 pm
by antus
Got an answer from a radio engineer mate:
The 'resistor plugs' may help, as I think that rather than just being a
resistor the 4 ohms could be via a wound inductor within the plug. This
inductor would attenuate RF type noise whilst appearing short circuit to
the voltage from the coil. The spark gap transmitter was the original
method of getting signals across the Atlantic Ocean. The 'resistor plug'
could stop RF radiating to the leads, in my opinion, from that nasty spark
gap within the cylinder head.

Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 7:29 pm
by charlay86
From NGK site:
NGK automotive resistor spark plugs contain a ceramic monolithic resistor. The resistor filters out excessive electrical noise generated by the ignition system. The most effective place to situate a resistor in the high tension circuit is as close to the spark plug as possible making the spark plug an ideal place to house the resistor.
In nearly all cases - apart from some very old low output ignition systems - resistor spark plugs can be used in place of the non resistor versions with no detrimental effect on engine performance, power output or vehicle emissions.
So much for the inductor theory.. looks like it just provides isolation.
Resistance values seem to be in the order of 5k ohms, which makes a bit more sense.
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Tue May 31, 2011 11:02 pm
by Holden202T
well at the end of the day, in stock plugs or race series plugs there is resistor and non-resistor options so im going to be doing for resistor!
i've spoken to my speedway mate and the difference in the plugs he runs compared to stock for the motor is pretty much different heat range and also less projected tip so i'll aim for the non projected ones to start off with and see how i go i guess....
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 12:57 am
by delcowizzid
non-projected help with knock as well they arnt way out in the heat
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Wed Jun 01, 2011 9:52 am
by v6bucket
The 12 port that I refer to is a blue/black head, not a red 9 port converted to 12 port.
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:24 am
by Holden202T
bit of an update on things, got the head at me mates workshop, last night we roughly cut the larger valve seats then used the cutter to throat the area under the valve seat, it really worked out pretty well, only leaving some minor porting to be done to have it all flow in together, so that will be todays task to get the porting done and then check valve seat pressures then assemble!
a funny side note to all this, a few years ago when i last freshened up the head i had to get hardened exhaust valve seats installed because the original seats where almost 2mm recessed into the head on some valves, so anyways, with the larger valves we've almost machined out the entire hardened seat!

Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:28 am
by Holden202T
very productive day yesterday, got all the head mods done, only issue now is that with my new cam i need different springs so got to order all that stuff before i can put the head together.
But for now i dug up some old pics of the head and got some comparison photos of how it is now.
so this is how the head was before any changes

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and this is how it is now

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so inlet valve sizes have gone from 1.6" up to 1.75" and exhaust from 1.4" to 1.55"
you can also seen in this pic below the valve stem areas have a bit of meat left around them

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and in this one alot of that has been removed to hopefully make for a smoother area for the air/fuel to flow past

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So you can also see in the last picture that the area bewteen the valve and edge of the chamber has been machined, we have taken it out to the edge of the gasket to de-shroud the valve as much as possible, there was probably 2mm on some and a bit less on others, shows up that the casting isn't all even but its pretty damn close really.
so todays task is to re-cc the head and see how much its changed with all the mods (less cc's from the valves being further into the chamber and the head being decked - more cc's from the de-shrouding etc) i'm hoping its slightly less cc's if anything but want it to be pretty much the same so i don't need to touch the block other than a light skim to true everything up.
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:29 pm
by muttley383
Just a novices observation, are the bigger valves going to suffer from to much shrouding and effectively negating there size increase?.
It is hard to see in the images if there is sufficient space around the edge of the valve to allow flow as soon as it moves of the seat.
Re: My Delcoed Rides
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 10:11 pm
by Holden202T