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Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:29 pm
by TdracerTd
krusty wrote:I reckon the M90 may not be the answer for what you need. You've got the SC14 so primed and on at the sniff of the throttle that the parasitic loss of an M90 may not be what the car needs for track. but yeah, for sure it will need to be cooled if you use one to keep the same response of the much much lighter SC14.
I'm actually interested to see which way you go tbh
Yeah, the difference in weight between the m90 and the sc14 is substantial. The rotors on the sc14 are hollow from factory. I think that therein lies my problem though, to make the power that I want, I really think that the poor old sc is at it's limit. I want to spin it faster, but it's not holding up to the current rpm. Side mount m90 is going to be the go I think. I know where there's a m122 going cheap too
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 4:30 pm
by TdracerTd
v6bucket wrote:I help with a V6 Dato 1200 fitted with an SC14 running Methanol, it also has another injector on the intake side of the blower, that was switched at about 3/4 throttle(this has now changed to run with the rest of the injectors). I've had a look at a couple of logs from a couple of years ago, the inlet temps would lift to 95°c whilst in stage then drop to 60°c by the end of the 1/8th mile, with MAP readings of 170kpa, so these figures should be lower now that the extra injector is running all the time.
Is the datto just running the crs piping or some custom tubing?
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 6:31 pm
by v6bucket
TdracerTd wrote:v6bucket wrote:I help with a V6 Dato 1200 fitted with an SC14 running Methanol, it also has another injector on the intake side of the blower, that was switched at about 3/4 throttle(this has now changed to run with the rest of the injectors). I've had a look at a couple of logs from a couple of years ago, the inlet temps would lift to 95°c whilst in stage then drop to 60°c by the end of the 1/8th mile, with MAP readings of 170kpa, so these figures should be lower now that the extra injector is running all the time.
Is the datto just running the crs piping or some custom tubing?
Custom piping. The blower is over the left side rocker cover, with the throttle body on the intake side of the blower & a solid tube between the blower & the manifold. I'll see if I can find a pic.
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:24 pm
by Holden202T
v6bucket wrote:I help with a V6 Dato 1200 ....
don't you mean V6 Datto 3800 ??
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:32 pm
by HQ355
Holden202T wrote:v6bucket wrote:I help with a V6 Dato 1200 ....
don't you mean V6 Datto 3800 ??
V6 Datto 3800 S/C ? Lol
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:36 pm
by Holden202T
yep
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 7:44 pm
by TdracerTd
Keen to see pictures of said datto 3800.
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Wed May 20, 2015 8:03 pm
by vlad01
thinking with a sidemount M90, you could fabricate the manifold with side entry and integrated? or bolt on/off WTA intercooler.
sort of like this but WTA and M90 bolted together. That was you can have a pretty descent sized IC and not limited to sandwich plate type like mace sells.
Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 8:25 am
by v6bucket
No under bonnet pics yet, but here's one of it in action at the 6 Banger Nats in 2012.
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Re: Sc14 to buick and e85
Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 9:38 am
by TdracerTd
What sort of horsepower is the datto making?