VE Table Help

[Holden202T]

yeah pretty much unless you can get to those points (ie. with the S/C disconnected) then the only way to get them close would be to guess work it from the rest of the areas you have touched.

it never hurts to make areas like that a little on the rich side when guess working, and then at least if the time comes that you do hit that area it will be rich but safe!

[vlad01]

yes the SC could be easily disconnected by bypassing the pulley.

[delcowizzid]

raptor belts break a lot in low miles LOL do some research on how many have been pulled off and sold LOL some people have sent them back multiple times for rebuilds and got sick of the cost theres a lot of heated threads around about them.

back on topic the areas you want to tune 100kpa can be tuned with part throttle keeping boost at 0 with your foot and in the event of the belt breaking it will just be a little rich.if you tune without the charger then run the charger the whole ve table will be off the same happens when you take a turbo off all the non boost areas also richen as the turbos forcing air the whole time

[vlad01]

raptor belts break a lot in low miles LOL do some research on how many have been pulled off and sold LOL some people have sent them back multiple times for rebuilds and got sick of the cost theres a lot of heated threads around about them.

back on topic the areas you want to tune 100kpa can be tuned with part throttle keeping boost at 0 with your foot and in the event of the belt breaking it will just be a little rich.if you tune without the charger then run the charger the whole ve table will be off the same happens when you take a turbo off all the non boost areas also richen as the turbos forcing air the whole time

I have done my research. you are thinking powerdyne chargers, they break belts in less than 10k, bearing failures, impellers cracking etc... the raptors are incredibly reliable, few that have been serviced, none reported actually breaking a belt. Most taken in for service the belts were perfect, some with 100k of use as well.

I have searched reliability as soon as i found out about them. couldn't dig any dirt on them at all. it was the very first thing i did. I admits I have found the odd belt breakage but they were normal circumstances, decent mileage, wear and tear

even gone though all the forum threads and post on JC, there is so many that i been looking since Monday and still haven't seen anything outstanding at all. only one guy complained about not being able to get 12s on the 1/4



Just to make sure, I just did another search just then, cam up nothing bad for raptor other than a few people on forum asking opinion of reliability, all that I looked said experience is good.

searched powerdyne problems, holy crap! does a LOT come up lol.

Also worth checking google images for possible posts of problems. Nothing again. But Powerdyne= horrific battle field of broken parts lol.

Anyways there is more developments panning out as we speak. I won't be jumpin on to anything for a good while so by then we might even see the non contact magnetic drive.




But referring to you answer about the tables, what do you mean hold throttle light load and it will be 0 boost? boosting will be there regardless as its rpm based. Remember SC not turbo.

I don't understand why you shouldn't try to fill the VE in for both boost and no boost senario? if Doesn't the VE tables run independent of each other, only one used at one time at any given scenario?

[Jayme]

But referring to you answer about the tables, what do you mean hold throttle light load and it will be 0 boost? boosting will be there regardless as its rpm based. Remember SC not turbo.

remember your intake still has a thotttle......... and your MAP sensor is after the throttle. with a bit of skill you can back off the throttle a little bit as the rpms go up and get the map to stay around 100kpa.... go for a drive and try it

[immortality]

Sorry yea I should have mentioned I'm tuning with a wideband. So what is the best way to disable blm's, closed loop & lean cruise?

Just increase the Temp enable setting for each of the BLM, lean cruise etc to maximum (i think it's about 150 degrees).




There have definitely been issues with Raptors breaking belts. I know one guy that has broken a few but he thrashes it hard doing burnouts etc. Others have also broken belts but it seems most of those issues have been sorted with getting decent blow-off valves fitted. It seems the raptor doesn't like reverse flow when throttle is snapped closed and the pressure can't be released quickly enough.

[delcowizzid]

yeah they require 2 BOV's set soft or belts get schredded they now have 1 with dual belts to try limit breakages so i hear LOL theres a reason most are gear drive.the other thing is heat at only 10psi people are maxing out IAT sensors even with the VLC charger.you want instant spooling boost take a look at iblowns setup boost from damn near idle no lag what so ever and 300rwhp on 10psi with 2 degrees WOT timing LOL

[Holden202T]

im pretty sure in $12P there is also a flag to disable lean cruise

[vlad01]

im pretty sure in $12P there is also a flag to disable lean cruise

by default its disabled. Its in flags, under both A and B section.

[vlad01]

yeah they require 2 BOV's set soft or belts get schredded they now have 1 with dual belts to try limit breakages so i hear LOL theres a reason most are gear drive.the other thing is heat at only 10psi people are maxing out IAT sensors even with the VLC charger.you want instant spooling boost take a look at iblowns setup boost from damn near idle no lag what so ever and 300rwhp on 10psi with 2 degrees WOT timing LOL

yes the twin belt setup is reliable even in racing applications. That setup was first made for some racing engines.

The other choice is vortech of course, just some considerable time money will be needed to make up a kit as the current offering here in Australia are quite sloppy. Thats the reason I leaning towards the raptors as the kits are really well refined now.

The vortech are known for taking abuse.