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Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:08 pm
by Dylan
Reckon you could PM one for a dead stock VR V6 with extractors running methanol?

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:14 pm
by immortality
vlad01 wrote:Here is a good article. Shows a graph in there.

http://www.onedirt.com/tech-stories/all-wound-up/

This is worth a read for sure, the dyno graph showing good spring Vs weak springs looks very familiar ;)

Pull the springs and measure pronto....

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:17 pm
by Jayme
I was about to say the graph doesnt look as bad as that article.... still it is a bit peaky...

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:24 pm
by immortality
The torque curve does nose dive though as Vlad said.

Still, springs are a good starting point. People have always erred on the light side with valve springs and hydraulic cams but I believe the opposite is now true, hydraulic lifters only pump up when valve train control is lost, more spring will keep that control for longer....

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:35 pm
by vlad01
Dylan wrote:Reckon you could PM one for a dead stock VR V6 with extractors running methanol?
Here you go. Methanol seemed to bump up the power a lot. about 20hp just from the fuel change.


lol I just tried that on my new design and its up to 467hp haha. That be alright for an ecotec N/A :lol:

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:44 pm
by Dylan
Gee you got to be quick 5 downloads in about 2 minute's. More speedway heads. Thanks mate it is good reading.

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:46 pm
by Gareth
Jayme wrote:I was about to say the graph doesnt look as bad as that article.... still it is a bit peaky...
I reacon its not far off the good curve in that graph, that is power in that article, not torque...

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:52 pm
by immortality
What sort of push rods is it running? Push rod flex could be an issue if the springs are good.

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:37 pm
by Gareth
We built this engine back in 2008, ive forgotten details like that. :hmm:

Talking to my machinist the other day, he recons he may still have all those details recorded, will hear soon.

Re: How to loose 200kgs?....

Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 5:54 pm
by immortality
2008, that makes about 7 seasons of racing assuming it's been used every year since been built? sounds like it's time for a re-fresh.

Springs are probably well past due for peak performance.