hack a car not just the ecu LOL

[delcowizzid]

paid to hack cars onboard networks bet they had fun

https://www.impomag.com/news/2013/09/ha ... er-systems

[vlad01]

somehow this doesn't seem like anything new.

After all aren't we all doing that same thing along these lines? lol

I like how they say 20-70 computers in a car, thats coz people are shit and can't drive.

[antus]

OMG they are plugging in to the OBD port and are able to talk to the on board computers! hahahhahaha. Fair point and they did mention bluetooth but the lack of specific detail make me think its just a scare mongering article with implications that the car manufactueres dont think about security when we know that they do. Something to watch but I wouldnt be worried yet.

[immortality]

Exactly. This story was in the NZ news a few weeks ago. One of the hackers was a kiwi bloke, he actually died before making his presentation at some big international conference been held in the US I think. Can't remember though the circumstances surrounding his death.

[The1]

i think it's only relevant to cars with the latest technology, not so much peripheral devices that might have bluetooth or other conectivity but more backend connection methods or manufacturer mangement interfaces like GPS. But people who know how to get into those and cause problems would have better things to do.

[antus]

The only issue I can see is people like one person I know who keeps an ebay bluetooth elm plugged in to his OBD2 port, which of course has a generic pin. If a geek happened to walk past and be scanning for bluetooth devices and saw a CHX come up and were prepared to pair up and wait for the driver to come back, then they could err log the car when it started up. I the article is about the concept more so than saying its a current risk.

[BPJ]

OMG they are plugging in to the OBD port and are able to talk to the on board computers! hahahhahaha. Fair point and they did mention bluetooth but the lack of specific detail make me think its just a scare mongering article with implications that the car manufactueres dont think about security when we know that they do. Something to watch but I wouldnt be worried yet.

One of the big things in the States is with OnStar, once you have the phone number for the car you can play around with it a bit, lock and unlock it, turn it off and lock it, not stuff I want someone to be able to remotely do to my car.

Exactly. This story was in the NZ news a few weeks ago. One of the hackers was a kiwi bloke, he actually died before making his presentation at some big international conference been held in the US I think. Can't remember though the circumstances surrounding his death.

You're not thinking of Michael hastings are you? -- http://rt.com/usa/michael-hastings-car-neighbor-853/

The only issue I can see is people like one person I know who keeps an ebay bluetooth elm plugged in to his OBD2 port, which of course has a generic pin. If a geek happened to walk past and be scanning for bluetooth devices and saw a CHX come up and were prepared to pair up and wait for the driver to come back, then they could err log the car when it started up. I the article is about the concept more so than saying its a current risk.

It isn't a problem now, as you said you need access to the OBD. The big problem that there is now is that there is no security on the OBD once you are in the car, most cars you don't even need the ignition on to be able to connect to the cars computers and modify things, bad move.

I do think that as computers on cars get more complex and have more functions these problems will become more serious.