Its "TIME" to get it right
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:44 am
well this subject is about timing .....
as you know the ecotec V6 uses a lovely MAF sensor which is just annoying for us old school map sensor fans ... and so since putting the ecotec in the torana with a 808 map based tune i've sorta been dealing with it using VR spark table and just doing the best i can with it, and without getting it on a dyno your only really guessing at cruise spark numbers etc....
add to that, from what i have seen from info floating around on the internet the kalmaker ecotec map tunes are sorta not really that different to the MAF spark tables which i think makes them not optimal and really no better than the setup im using above.
SOOO i decided there has to be a way to get true map base spark tables made from the VS ... a few ideas were thrown around and eventually i worked out i need to get a map sensor on there and get its info pumped out of the vs aldl stream and then i should be able to use scannerpro histograms to plot me a nice spark table .... only problem with this was getting the input setup and the aldl stream stuff etc....
then me old mate delcowizzid had the suggestion, why not flog a sensors input that the car can work without ...... and it turns out B12 is used as a voltage monitor input for the injectors..... it has a seperate wire going into the PCM and in theory all things being right the signal from it should read about the same as the battery voltage.
too easy, so i have fabricated a map sensor loom which will connect into the B12 pin and then piggy back another sensor for +5v and GND connections, then i've adjusted the VS adx to have 0-5.5v reading for the injector voltage data which i will apply a calculation to, to get the 0-100kpa readings needed!
so hopefully in a few days time i will have a proper conversion vs v6 maf -> map spark table. and this will almost be the icing on the cake for the ecotec map conversion $12P bin file!
i'll be sure to post some logs and a spark table that i come up with once i get something for yas!
as you know the ecotec V6 uses a lovely MAF sensor which is just annoying for us old school map sensor fans ... and so since putting the ecotec in the torana with a 808 map based tune i've sorta been dealing with it using VR spark table and just doing the best i can with it, and without getting it on a dyno your only really guessing at cruise spark numbers etc....
add to that, from what i have seen from info floating around on the internet the kalmaker ecotec map tunes are sorta not really that different to the MAF spark tables which i think makes them not optimal and really no better than the setup im using above.
SOOO i decided there has to be a way to get true map base spark tables made from the VS ... a few ideas were thrown around and eventually i worked out i need to get a map sensor on there and get its info pumped out of the vs aldl stream and then i should be able to use scannerpro histograms to plot me a nice spark table .... only problem with this was getting the input setup and the aldl stream stuff etc....
then me old mate delcowizzid had the suggestion, why not flog a sensors input that the car can work without ...... and it turns out B12 is used as a voltage monitor input for the injectors..... it has a seperate wire going into the PCM and in theory all things being right the signal from it should read about the same as the battery voltage.
too easy, so i have fabricated a map sensor loom which will connect into the B12 pin and then piggy back another sensor for +5v and GND connections, then i've adjusted the VS adx to have 0-5.5v reading for the injector voltage data which i will apply a calculation to, to get the 0-100kpa readings needed!
so hopefully in a few days time i will have a proper conversion vs v6 maf -> map spark table. and this will almost be the icing on the cake for the ecotec map conversion $12P bin file!
i'll be sure to post some logs and a spark table that i come up with once i get something for yas!