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Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 7:57 am
by Gareth
Hi all,

was wondering if this would be possible to achieve on my speedway car (VL Commodore V6), I could easily fit wheel speed sensors front and rear, just need ideas on how to go about using that info to create torque management....

Thought appreciated, :thumbup:

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 8:33 am
by The1
handbrake?

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 10:34 am
by Gareth
Not sure what you mean, car isn't fitted with one...

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:51 am
by VX L67 Getrag
I'm guessing handbrake was a joke? I know I wouldn't want my wife in a speedway car...LMAO

I could only assume you'd have to use another module to register differences between wheel speed sensors & then have a signal out to PCM to retard timing or something along those lines if it is at all possible?

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 11:53 am
by Gareth
VX L67 Getrag wrote:I could only assume you'd have to use another module to register differences between wheel speed sensors & then have a signal out to PCM to retard timing or something along those lines if it is at all possible?
Thats exactly what I had in mind, but not sure where to start

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:16 pm
by VX L67 Getrag
Yeah it's sounds pretty cool if it can be done & will be watching with interest!

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 12:17 pm
by Dylan
Was thinking similar too. An external module could output a signal to the 424 and would engage power or economy mode which would have a lower timing table. As for the module to monitor the wheel speed I'm no help with anything off hand there.

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 1:25 pm
by vlad01
there already is a sort of traction control. RDSC. Thats enabled by default and sudden changes in rpm and load conditions it retards the timing.

Its one of these things I discovered inhibited performance on the VR when I was tuning it and stopped it from breaking traction when dumping the clutch.

There is lots of settings related to this so it can be fine tuned.

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:09 pm
by MAGP
vlad01 wrote:there already is a sort of traction control. RDSC. Thats enabled by default and sudden changes in rpm and load conditions it retards the timing.

Its one of these things I discovered inhibited performance on the VR when I was tuning it and stopped it from breaking traction when dumping the clutch.

There is lots of settings related to this so it can be fine tuned.
That would be the way I would go. If set up like a knock sensor, i.e. the wheel sensor detects wheel spin and relays the message back to the ECU, it would reduce timing until traction is achieved.

Re: Traction control with a 424 PCM

Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2017 2:19 pm
by immortality
Traction control, isn't that what we use our Right Foot for?