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Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:17 am
by Charlescrown
I was of the impression that all Gen3 engines are OBD2 but can't get a generic bluetooth unit to link with the ECU. The unit works fine on other cars but not this VY. Anyone know why?
Re: Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:41 am
by antus
ls1? on 512kb or 1mb pcms? yes they are. Check the power and ground pins, and the VPW data pin are all present, clean and making a good connection. it could also be a fault in the units vpw circuitry if everything else you've tested with is CAN bus.
Re: Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 10:42 am
by Tazzi
Charlescrown wrote:I was of the impression that all Gen3 engines are OBD2 but can't get a generic bluetooth unit to link with the ECU. The unit works fine on other cars but not this VY. Anyone know why?
Alot of the generic bluetooth units do not have the required protocol (VPW) for the Gen3 (LS1) engines built into the devices. Some of the better and bigger style bluetooth units (Like full elm style case units) will support and work.
Also, next issue is whether the software you are using supports the VPW protocol as well.
Re: Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 3:59 pm
by antus
Really? No VPW in the latest units? Wow even the low quality $8 ones I was seeing a year or two ago had the vpw hardware. They had really bad soldering and the BT module was often not soldered to the main board, but at least they had tried to include the right protocols! For the time lost on the cheap modules, your really better off spending a little more for an allpro or an obdlink sx.
Re: Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 4:05 pm
by Charlescrown
I'll have to check that one. I can scan the car fine with my Autel MD802 but not with the bluetooth so it's probably not going to be a connection problem. I am using Torque Lite maybe that's where the problem lies.
Re: Can't link to Gen 3 ECU with OBD2
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2019 7:11 pm
by Tazzi
antus wrote:Really? No VPW in the latest units? Wow even the low quality $8 ones I was seeing a year or two ago had the vpw hardware. They had really bad soldering and the BT module was often not soldered to the main board, but at least they had tried to include the right protocols! For the time lost on the cheap modules, your really better off spending a little more for an allpro or an obdlink sx.
Yeah! Saves on space, and reduction of cost for no regulator+transistors+resistors for the circuit would reduce cost a bit... even if its something thats already cheap.
Id assume they work off of the cost per 10k units... so saving 50cents.. is like saving 5k for them... or 5k more in their pockets.