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DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 9:53 am
by 34blazer
There's only a few qualifiers in 12P for DFCO. Is that all??? There's no RPM delta qualifier so DFCO is active in between shifts, which also leads to a lean tip in condition. Before I turn it off is there such a qualified that is not defined in the current xdf I have?


I'm also not liking the composite AE calculation, it's very crude at best. Was that derived from the original calibration? I really need a TPS based AE because right now this one size fits all logic needs to be rich in most places so that I don't have a lean tip in issue in between shifts or at initial take off. If I had TPS AE all I need to do is adjust the region between 20-30% delta.


Thanks

Re: DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Thu May 30, 2019 6:09 pm
by antus
I dont think DFCO should be active between shifts, can you post up a log?

The V8 12P data contains the factory data for an MPI Holden 5.0L V8. The offsets are injector milliseconds (quicker to calculate?) so if your running a different flow rate the values will be out. I guess its done this way because its a 2mhz 8 bit computer and its quick to calculate.

Re: DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 12:12 am
by 34blazer
Sure is. I can watch the IPW drop to zero on a free rev. In other calibrations there was a max RPM delta to prevent DFCO from becoming active if the RPMs decreased to quick.

Re: DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 12:12 am
by 34blazer
....or at least a delay for the same reason

Re: DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:50 am
by delcowizzid
Dfco should only be active if between 1400 and 1500rpm and 19 and 29kpa and above 30kmh.it could be decel enleanment pulling fuel when you lift not actual fuel cut change the manfuel settings for decel enleanment or set the minimum de bpw to something higher than 0 that's in the bin so it can't fully cut fuel

Re: DFCO qualifiers and the weird AE calc 12P

Posted: Fri May 31, 2019 11:19 pm
by 34blazer
delcowizzid wrote:Dfco should only be active if between 1400 and 1500rpm and 19 and 29kpa and above 30kmh.it could be decel enleanment pulling fuel when you lift not actual fuel cut change the manfuel settings for decel enleanment or set the minimum de bpw to something higher than 0 that's in the bin so it can't fully cut fuel

DW, I'm running a 2.0 Opel turbo engine. It doesn't pull as much vacuum as a 3800 or V8 so those settings have been changed to match the characteristics of that engine. What I'm asking is if there is a delay timer or delta rpm parameter, like what is found in other GM calibrations.