Re: Mother of all 7603 XDF files
Posted: Thu Jan 20, 2022 10:33 pm
what happen to the link? says error 404 from page 2 when clicked on.
Electronic Fuel Injection - Developement & Tuning
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Wow, not to be harsh, but I do not trust anything posted up online that is not vetted by a third party. I believe I had this exact conversion with you already. So why would I bother looking at an XDF (Made by others also) which no-one has indicated how or where they got the information? Let alone having any of the addresses, math or even tables vetted to if they are even correct?persingc wrote:The 7603 xdf I've contributed to has been pulled based on the creators of LSDroid plans to monetize a tuning app. While they have plausible deny ability they aren't going to use those in this community hard work for their gains I'm skeptical. While I know my file is out in the wild and they probably have some version of it you can thank them for it being pulled.
Technically, nothing to do with Envyous Customs... Im still tinkering around with Holdens here.Gampy wrote:Read post 1 ... It has been edited and a statement made as to why it has been removed.
Not sure I understand how it is affected by Envyous Customs plans though ...
But if I had to take a wild guess, I'd say it has to do with a license and viewtopic.php?f=26&t=6416&p=113667#p113667 ...
We are purchasing definition files based off of A2L's that a 3rd party generates. This makes our cost lower, rather then trying to buy full A2Ls for every OS, but clearly is going to cost us upfront to add basic stuff in the beginning.persingc wrote:Based on what purchasing legitimate A2L files from GM or at least the figure I've seen floating around costs. There is zero chance you could purchase them for all of the OSs like you claimed based off ad revenue. Pennies per ad view at best means maybe a $2-$3 per vehicle. You can answer this question since your existing app contacts the server when loaded how many times does it get hit per month? Double that figure and multiple by per view ad revenue since you want an ad for read and write. I bet the expected revenue isn't enough to fund a single A2L. Which only leads to you gaining that information based off others hard work. I'm certain a fair amount of what we have has been gained from commercial products but again we aren't attempting to make money from it like you are. You keep saying $0 or free but what that really means is the user IS the product you are selling to the advertisers. Your server based app concept is only beneficial to you being able to install whatever code you want on your users computers. Notice how none of the major players are like this? Like I said on FB this sounds EXACTLY like what happened when HPT started out many years ago. Look I like your hardware, but your "concern" for those bricking their pcms is misguided at best. If the users can't do the required research to make the existing products work then they probably shouldn't be tuning an efi engine.
We are buying formation from GMs definition files. This is what commercial companies such as efilive,hptuners and tuner cats do also. The difference is, Im not asking YOU for $50 an ecu, I have suggest $0.. and 30seconds of your time. If your 30seconds of time is worth more then $50 for an operating system not available in XDF format, then you would be best buying one of the commercial tuners.persingc wrote:I'm certain a fair amount of what we have has been gained from commercial products but again we aren't attempting to make money from it like you are
I most definitely was, thank you for the clarification ...Tazzi wrote:I believe the OP is confused between the companies/people at hand: