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VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:19 pm
by vlad01
Hi all,

Does anyone have a good solution to a replacement or relatively easy to fit alternative metal res for the VN-VR v6?

With the age of these cars now, it looks like the return fittings are breaking off them. I had one such res and pump in the shed that someone broke and repaired with a brass fitting, although this worked it also has hairline cracks around the tapping and weeps. (had to use it for now).

I assumed someone was just too rough on that one.

Today I had to replace the 3 week old gates water pump (shit itself) with a NOS Jap made GMB from a VN s1. The PS return hose got brittle again after a few years, tackled that and the res fitting just snapped off even with minimal force.

I realized this is a dangerous issue. Fluid straight onto the headers, fire! and loss of power steering.

Quick google and there was nothing. Even used res are expensive and NOS ones are drug money. This suggests this is being a common issue.

Would be nice if there was a drop in fabricated or billet option, but one can dream :lol:

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:41 pm
by immortality
If I'm not mistaken the 3800 V6 PS pump is identical to the later ecotec PS pump except the ecotec version has the nipple already on the pump to suit a remote reservoir.

IIRC I looked at this mod once and considered swapping out the thermofan for an ecotec style and use the ecotec PS reservoir but that would put the reservoir below the PS pump which would make bleeding the system initially a PITA as ideally it needs to be above the pump.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sat Jun 24, 2023 7:59 pm
by vlad01
I thought the same thing. I have a VS fan in the shed with the res still on it.

I am thinking for more serious projects in the future I might get PWR to fabricate one or two, but not for the shitbox.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 9:11 am
by Charlescrown
If you can't get one call Rare Spares. They may have one in the pipeline. I'm waiting for a VR washer bottle that's in production now so hopefully it won't be too long.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 11:46 am
by vlad01
I found some NOS ones for about 100 bucks each, everywhere else want 200+


Rares have been apparently working on those VR washer bottles for probably 8 years. They released fuel tanks and manual trims in that time which were a lower priority from what I heard becasue you can still get used and occasional NOS one. Those washer bottles have been long gone for years.

Even the VN-VS wiper covers are available.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 1:14 pm
by Charlescrown
Maybe. I was talking to them 2 weeks ago and got the impression their in the making.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2023 8:37 pm
by vlad01
Hope so, I wouldn't mind a spare for my VR for when it perishes.

I got hints they are working on VP tail lights but for the love of god, they better not make them to factory specs!

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 5:30 pm
by Charlescrown
Why? I would have thought factory specs would be OK.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Mon Jun 26, 2023 10:25 pm
by vlad01
Factory ones are awful, leak out of the production line basically and the backing/mounting would fall apart. Even a nos one I had disintegrated in my hands after trying to install in on my car.

There were some cheap aftermarket ones years ago that addressed virtually all the issues the genuine ones had, but they stopped making them.

Re: VN-VR V6 power steering res return failures

Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2023 9:17 am
by Charlescrown
From what I have seen the OE ones are quiet thin and when they start to leak people just tighten the return hose as tight as they can crushing the plastic outlet. A good moove would be to press a thin wall metal sleeve into that pipe fitting but you need to get hold of a new or good one first. I recently gave one away to a neighbour and he ended up being a real arshole so being nice is not always best.