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Yes I have been .
Sorry I probably mixed that up a bit . I have been playing with the - Idle fuel- af ratio vs coolant temp and the - Idle fuel- VE closed throttle vs rpm .
The part I wasn't sure of was if the same rpm in the closed throttle VE should match the main VE . I probably should untick the "closed throttle VE option" by the sounds of it and don't need to worry about it as you said.
I've probably made myself a problem I don't need . I will uncheck it and try again .

Give it a go and report back. To get a combo like this tuned well. It can take months of weekend's etc logging changing, logging again more changes. Just enjoy it and don't rush. You'll be right

Cheers Dylan , I will, thanks for encouragement .