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Real Time Modded Factory Bins

Postby VL400 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 1:26 pm

In order to get RT tuning over ALDL available for most models of Commodores as quickly as possible I have modified a selection of bins. These will work in conjunction with Antus' TP5 plugin and ADX and XDF files created by holden202T and Jayme. It is still early days but we are progressing and hope to have very well defined real-time tunable solutions in the near future.

These bins have been modified so that the ALDL mode 10 function that used to clear malfunctions is now used for writing to the calibration area. They otherwise operate identically to the factory version. With these mods you are able to use an NVRAM in place of the memcal and gain realtime tuning over the vehicle data bus.

The flashtool v1.24 or later supports all of these modified bins and can be downloaded from here. It allows reading and writing of the calibration. You can use your existing cal with these modified bins - however, you must be using a bin with the same broadcast code. For example, you have been using a factory CKUL bin and making changes to the calibration, you are able to use the flashtool to read the cal and then once the write modified CKUL bin below is written to an NVRAM, use the flashtool write cal function to copy in your tuned CKUL cal area.

Antus' plugin available here allows for realtime tuning using TunerPro 5. The instructions for installation can be found in that thread.

For each of these modified bins an ADX and XDF will be provided as we can work through them.

Important note on using the ADX files with the plugin on pre 1.2.0 versions only - When ALDL is used over the one wire vehicle bus it has echo. When setting up the ADX you normally set the echo flag in the configuration, however, if you are using Antus’ TP plugin for logging and tuning then the echo setting is done in the plugin configuration. You MUST then de-select the echo setting in the ADX configuration. Failure to do this will mean you will not be able to log any data.

VN/VP auto/manual or VR/VS Manual
If you have a VN/VP, VR/VS V8 manual or VR V6 manual then use OSE 12P which is available here

VR V6 Auto
Bin:
BMZA_mod.zip
$11C 94, 3.8L Auto 16176424 ECU New Transmission Cals
(31.06 KiB) Downloaded 508 times

ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=634

VR V8 Auto
Bin:
BMZC_mod.zip
$11C 94, 5.0L Auto 16176424 ECU New Transmission Cals
(31.04 KiB) Downloaded 536 times

Bin:
BMZC_mod_Wideband.zip
$11C 94, 5.0L Auto 16176424 ECU New Transmission Cals - WIDEBAND MOD FOR INJECTOR FEEDBACK LINE
(30.81 KiB) Downloaded 458 times

ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: http://delcohacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=634

VS V6 Manual
Bin:
BSTJ_mod.zip
$51C 3.8L Man 16199728 ECU Heated O2 sensors and serial data fixes
(38.96 KiB) Downloaded 407 times

ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF:

Bin:
BZPT_MOD.zip
$51F 3.8L Auto For Getrag manual trans
(39.42 KiB) Downloaded 352 times

ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: Download the $51F Getrag XDF from viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5


VS V6 Auto
Bin:
BWPJ_MOD.zip
$51D 3.8L Auto 16199728 ECU Revised CanPurge, Cold Hesitation and Ping fix
(39.58 KiB) Downloaded 407 times

ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF:

Bin:
CKUL_mod.zip
$51E 3.8L Auto 16199728 ECU For 98 Transmission
(39.81 KiB) Downloaded 459 times

ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $83 VS V8 v1.01.xdf from here

VS V8 Auto

Bin:
BWFU_mod.zip
$83A 5.0L Auto 16176424 ECU Series II, From 6/1996
(32.16 KiB) Downloaded 502 times

Wideband Enabled Bin:
BWFU_mod_Wideband.zip
$83A 5.0L Auto 16176424 ECU Series II, From 6/1996 - WIDEBAND MOD FOR INJECTOR FEEDBACK LINE
(32.18 KiB) Downloaded 425 times

ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $83 VS V8 v1.01.xdf from here

Bin:
BPYS_mod.zip
$58A 5.0L Auto 16176424 ECU With 95 coded trans
(31.03 KiB) Downloaded 415 times

ADX:Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $11 XDF from viewtopic.php?f=7&t=634#p7409

VS Series III V8 Manual
Bin:
DRRR_modV2.zip
$A6F 5.0L Man 16234531 VS Series III 195KW Ute
(42.09 KiB) Downloaded 320 times

ADX: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=315

VS Series III V8 Auto
Bin:
DRRS_modV2.zip
DRRS $A6F VS Series 3 195kw 5L V8 Auto
(41.97 KiB) Downloaded 341 times

ADX: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=315


VS S/C
Bin:
CKUM_mod.zip
$51H 3.8L S/C Auto 16210672 / 16210480 ECU For 99 Trans, needs S/C specific '0672' PCM or 16210480.
(41 KiB) Downloaded 393 times

ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5&p=15043#p15043

VT V6 Manual
Bin:
CXWM_modV2.zip
$A5F 3.8L Man Series I, ends 03/1999
(45.33 KiB) Downloaded 335 times

ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: Use VT V6 $A5F from here.. viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5

VT V6 Auto
Bin:
CXWB_modV2.zip
$A5G 3.8L Auto 16233396 ECU Series II Update, ends 04/2000
(46.37 KiB) Downloaded 426 times

ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: Use VT V6 V1.91 $A5F.xdf under section VT here: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5

VT S/C
Bin:
CXWK_modV2.zip
$A5G 3.8L HSV S/C Auto 16233396 ECU VT Series II, HSV XU6
(46.19 KiB) Downloaded 376 times

ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=270

VT V8 Manual
Bin:
CNPJ_modV2.zip
$A6E 5.0L Man 16234531 ECU From 01/1999
(43.33 KiB) Downloaded 365 times

ADX: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047

Bin:
CFZF_modV2.zip
$A6C 5.7L Man 16234531 ECU HSV 220KW 5.7L GMH V8 w/6spd
(43.37 KiB) Downloaded 305 times

ADX: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047


VT V8 Auto
Bin:
CJDN_modV2.zip
$A6C 5.0L Auto 16234531 ECU Std 179KW GMH V8
(43.31 KiB) Downloaded 342 times

ADX: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://www.pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047

VX S/C
Bin:
DDRJ_modV2.zip
$A5K VX V6 S/C XU6
(46.35 KiB) Downloaded 355 times

ADX: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5

VY S/C
Bin:
DULW_modV2.zip
$07B VY V6 SC
(46.65 KiB) Downloaded 356 times

DLTK_modV2.zip
$07A VY V6 SC 2004
(46.91 KiB) Downloaded 314 times

ADX: viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby delcowizzid » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:47 pm

nice work guys knew i bought that vs nvram board for a reason LOL :mrgreen:
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby Holden202T » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:55 pm

Ok bit of info on adding wideband logging into these factory bins.

Now firstly im not sure if it will work for all of them as i've only done it with VS V6 Auto and VS V8 Auto but we can only try i suppose.

VS V6 Auto
So with this one there are a few options, originally i had it setup to have a map sensor input into the ALDL stream so i could make some map based spark maps and stuff like that from the stock ecotec tune, so on pin B12 as you can see below is injector voltage monitor line.

vsv6autoinjectorpinouts.JPG
VS V6 Auto Injector Pin Outs
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So what i've done is get another pin from a spare parts loom and use it in place of that pin, or alternatively put a lug on it so you can unplug it and plug your device into it .... and remember, the female lug goes on the injector end not the PCM end cause if it touches something metal it'll blow your main engine fuse under the bonnet!

the next step is to wire in your wideband sensor, in my case the innovate LC-1 has an analog output that i have calibrated to suit 0-5v which in AFR's is 7.35 - 22.39 and then this analog output wire connects into the B12 pin on the PCM. the only other change you need to do is to setup the logging side of it.

In scanner pro or tunerpro5 edit the adx and find under values the injector voltage monitor and set it up as follows:

Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35

you can also set the data types and unit if you wish but its not mandatory.

Thats pretty much it, your ready to go for wideband input! Also you can use a map sensor input on B12 if you want and its only difference is you need to have 5v power from somwhere (i just tapped into TPS +5v) and then use:

Range low: 0
Range high: 100
Equation: (X * 1.88) + 10.354

Please note this will not give you map sensor functionality on an Ecotec it will only give you map sensor readings so you can gather useful information for conversions and such.

VS V8 Auto
As above its a fairly similar process however the V8 has the injector voltage monitor line on pin D7

vsv8autoinjectorpinouts.JPG
VS V8 Auto Injector Pin Outs
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Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35

This one is slightly different in that VS V8 Auto needs a mod applied to stop the wideband skewing the injector voltage compensation calc. The mod is to use the battery voltage (like many other code bases) in place of the injector feedback voltage for the compensation. Use the BWFU_mod_Wideband if you are going to connect a wideband.

Normally what i do is change the Current IAC Position gauge and put the wideband there then put the IAC position into the injector voltage line monitor box on the right side. if all goes to plan you should end up with something looking like this in your logs.

vsv8widebandlog.JPG
Log of VS V8 With Wideband
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You can then make histograms with the wideband data and use these in wideband converter spreadsheet found HERE.

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby Jayme » Thu Jul 08, 2010 2:59 pm

Dont forget too, these Adx's are pretty sweet for logging the Autos. thanks to VL400 they now have a transmission dash so you can see exactly what your trans is doing too :D

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby charlay86 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:11 pm

Well this is exciting!
I'd be happy to volunteer as a VT S/C vehicle tester.

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby Holden202T » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:17 pm

better than a lump of coal for chrissy hey :punk:

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby charlay86 » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:24 pm

sure is, :idea: should really get off my ass and install my widebands

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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins

Postby Apples » Thu Jul 08, 2010 3:31 pm

Top stuff guys, you have out done your self’s this time. :D
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Re: Real Time Modded Factory Bins

Postby VX L67 Getrag » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:33 pm

Jeepers, Ive been busy for like 4 days & not checked whats going on & wow so much has happened!
I can put my hand up for vx s/c testing, but as most know it's a bit modified(manual & the rest).

VERY NICE WORK

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Re: Real Time Modded Factory Bins

Postby Holden202T » Thu Jul 08, 2010 9:36 pm

mods don't matter, you put your cal into the stock tune and see if it all works then use the plugin and tuner pro to connect and see if you can do stuff realtime, see if you can break it etc.

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