In order to get RT tuning over ALDL available for most models of Commodores as quickly as possible I have modified a selection of bins. These will work in conjunction with Antus' TP5 plugin and ADX and XDF files created by holden202T and Jayme. It is still early days but we are progressing and hope to have very well defined real-time tunable solutions in the near future.
These bins have been modified so that the ALDL mode 10 function that used to clear malfunctions is now used for writing to the calibration area. They otherwise operate identically to the factory version. With these mods you are able to use an NVRAM in place of the memcal and gain realtime tuning over the vehicle data bus.
The flashtool v1.24 or later supports all of these modified bins and can be downloaded from here. It allows reading and writing of the calibration. You can use your existing cal with these modified bins - however, you must be using a bin with the same broadcast code. For example, you have been using a factory CKUL bin and making changes to the calibration, you are able to use the flashtool to read the cal and then once the write modified CKUL bin below is written to an NVRAM, use the flashtool write cal function to copy in your tuned CKUL cal area.
Antus' plugin available here allows for realtime tuning using TunerPro 5. The instructions for installation can be found in that thread.
For each of these modified bins an ADX and XDF will be provided as we can work through them.
Important note on using the ADX files with the plugin on pre 1.2.0 versions only - When ALDL is used over the one wire vehicle bus it has echo. When setting up the ADX you normally set the echo flag in the configuration, however, if you are using Antus’ TP plugin for logging and tuning then the echo setting is done in the plugin configuration. You MUST then de-select the echo setting in the ADX configuration. Failure to do this will mean you will not be able to log any data.
VN/VP auto/manual or VR/VS Manual
If you have a VN/VP, VR/VS V8 manual or VR V6 manual then use OSE 12P which is available here
VR V6 Auto
Bin:
ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=634
VR V8 Auto
Bin:
Bin:
ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=634
VS V6 Manual
Bin:
ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF:
Bin:
ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: Download the $51F Getrag XDF from http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
VS V6 Auto
Bin:
ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF:
Bin:
ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $83 VS V8 v1.01.xdf from here
VS V8 Auto
Bin:
Wideband Enabled Bin:
ADX: Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $83 VS V8 v1.01.xdf from here
Bin:
ADX:Download the VR $11 TP5 ADX from here
XDF: $11 XDF from http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic. ... =634#p7409
VS Series III V8 Manual
Bin:
ADX: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=315
VS Series III V8 Auto
Bin:
ADX: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=315
VS S/C
Bin:
ADX: Download the VS TP5 ADX from here
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic. ... 043#p15043
VT V6 Manual
Bin:
ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: Use VT V6 $A5F from here.. http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
VT V6 Auto
Bin:
ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: Use VT V6 V1.91 $A5F.xdf under section VT here: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
VT S/C
Bin:
ADX: Use the VT $A5 Definition here.. http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=270
VT V8 Manual
Bin:
ADX: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047
Bin:
ADX: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047
VT V8 Auto
Bin:
ADX: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... ?f=10&t=29
XDF: https://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewto ... =315#p3047
VX S/C
Bin:
ADX: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
VY S/C
Bin:
ADX: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=29
XDF: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=5
Real Time Modded Factory Bins
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Real Time Modded Factory Bins
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delcowizzid
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
nice work guys knew i bought that vs nvram board for a reason LOL 
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Holden202T
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
Ok bit of info on adding wideband logging into these factory bins.
Now firstly im not sure if it will work for all of them as i've only done it with VS V6 Auto and VS V8 Auto but we can only try i suppose.
VS V6 Auto
So with this one there are a few options, originally i had it setup to have a map sensor input into the ALDL stream so i could make some map based spark maps and stuff like that from the stock ecotec tune, so on pin B12 as you can see below is injector voltage monitor line.
So what i've done is get another pin from a spare parts loom and use it in place of that pin, or alternatively put a lug on it so you can unplug it and plug your device into it .... and remember, the female lug goes on the injector end not the PCM end cause if it touches something metal it'll blow your main engine fuse under the bonnet!
the next step is to wire in your wideband sensor, in my case the innovate LC-1 has an analog output that i have calibrated to suit 0-5v which in AFR's is 7.35 - 22.39 and then this analog output wire connects into the B12 pin on the PCM. the only other change you need to do is to setup the logging side of it.
In scanner pro or tunerpro5 edit the adx and find under values the injector voltage monitor and set it up as follows:
Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35
you can also set the data types and unit if you wish but its not mandatory.
Thats pretty much it, your ready to go for wideband input! Also you can use a map sensor input on B12 if you want and its only difference is you need to have 5v power from somwhere (i just tapped into TPS +5v) and then use:
Range low: 0
Range high: 100
Equation: (X * 1.88) + 10.354
Please note this will not give you map sensor functionality on an Ecotec it will only give you map sensor readings so you can gather useful information for conversions and such.
VS V8 Auto
As above its a fairly similar process however the V8 has the injector voltage monitor line on pin D7
Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35
This one is slightly different in that VS V8 Auto needs a mod applied to stop the wideband skewing the injector voltage compensation calc. The mod is to use the battery voltage (like many other code bases) in place of the injector feedback voltage for the compensation. Use the BWFU_mod_Wideband if you are going to connect a wideband.
Normally what i do is change the Current IAC Position gauge and put the wideband there then put the IAC position into the injector voltage line monitor box on the right side. if all goes to plan you should end up with something looking like this in your logs.
You can then make histograms with the wideband data and use these in wideband converter spreadsheet found HERE.
Now firstly im not sure if it will work for all of them as i've only done it with VS V6 Auto and VS V8 Auto but we can only try i suppose.
VS V6 Auto
So with this one there are a few options, originally i had it setup to have a map sensor input into the ALDL stream so i could make some map based spark maps and stuff like that from the stock ecotec tune, so on pin B12 as you can see below is injector voltage monitor line.
So what i've done is get another pin from a spare parts loom and use it in place of that pin, or alternatively put a lug on it so you can unplug it and plug your device into it .... and remember, the female lug goes on the injector end not the PCM end cause if it touches something metal it'll blow your main engine fuse under the bonnet!
the next step is to wire in your wideband sensor, in my case the innovate LC-1 has an analog output that i have calibrated to suit 0-5v which in AFR's is 7.35 - 22.39 and then this analog output wire connects into the B12 pin on the PCM. the only other change you need to do is to setup the logging side of it.
In scanner pro or tunerpro5 edit the adx and find under values the injector voltage monitor and set it up as follows:
Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35
you can also set the data types and unit if you wish but its not mandatory.
Thats pretty much it, your ready to go for wideband input! Also you can use a map sensor input on B12 if you want and its only difference is you need to have 5v power from somwhere (i just tapped into TPS +5v) and then use:
Range low: 0
Range high: 100
Equation: (X * 1.88) + 10.354
Please note this will not give you map sensor functionality on an Ecotec it will only give you map sensor readings so you can gather useful information for conversions and such.
VS V8 Auto
As above its a fairly similar process however the V8 has the injector voltage monitor line on pin D7
Range low: 10
Range high: 20
Equation: (((22.39-7.35)/51)*x)+7.35
This one is slightly different in that VS V8 Auto needs a mod applied to stop the wideband skewing the injector voltage compensation calc. The mod is to use the battery voltage (like many other code bases) in place of the injector feedback voltage for the compensation. Use the BWFU_mod_Wideband if you are going to connect a wideband.
Normally what i do is change the Current IAC Position gauge and put the wideband there then put the IAC position into the injector voltage line monitor box on the right side. if all goes to plan you should end up with something looking like this in your logs.
You can then make histograms with the wideband data and use these in wideband converter spreadsheet found HERE.
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No matter what the question is, the answer is always more horsepower! 
Just starting out? Have a read of the getting started guide
Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Advanced tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Just starting out? Have a read of the getting started guide
Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Advanced tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
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Jayme
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
Dont forget too, these Adx's are pretty sweet for logging the Autos. thanks to VL400 they now have a transmission dash so you can see exactly what your trans is doing too 
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charlay86
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
Well this is exciting!
I'd be happy to volunteer as a VT S/C vehicle tester.
I'd be happy to volunteer as a VT S/C vehicle tester.
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Holden202T
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
better than a lump of coal for chrissy hey 
No matter what the question is, the answer is always more horsepower!
Just starting out? Have a read of the getting started guide
Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Advanced tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
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Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
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charlay86
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
sure is, 
should really get off my ass and install my widebands
should really get off my ass and install my widebands-
Apples
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Re: RT Modded Factory Bins
Top stuff guys, you have out done your self’s this time.
Don't make excuses. Make more horsepower.
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VX L67 Getrag
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Re: Real Time Modded Factory Bins
Jeepers, Ive been busy for like 4 days & not checked whats going on & wow so much has happened!
I can put my hand up for vx s/c testing, but as most know it's a bit modified(manual & the rest).
VERY NICE WORK
I can put my hand up for vx s/c testing, but as most know it's a bit modified(manual & the rest).
VERY NICE WORK
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Holden202T
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Re: Real Time Modded Factory Bins
mods don't matter, you put your cal into the stock tune and see if it all works then use the plugin and tuner pro to connect and see if you can do stuff realtime, see if you can break it etc.
No matter what the question is, the answer is always more horsepower!
Just starting out? Have a read of the getting started guide
Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Advanced tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Just starting out? Have a read of the getting started guide
Basic tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread
Advanced tuning of a delco ECM with $12P thread