Beading/bead rolling tool/s for steel lines.

[vlad01]

Actually, I just realized that maybe my old restro work place, same guys that do small fab jobs for me in Bendigo, those that painted the red VP. They might have beading equipment since they do restros and build/maintain TCM race cars.

I am sure they would be running hard lines often enough. Worst case, I could just do a brake flare and find a suitable barb fitting. Should be more compact and simple than AN for example which needs a number of pieces to get the same result.

[Charlescrown]

The thing I hate about AN fittings is the $$$.

[vlad01]

Yep and the unnecessary amount of adapters because they never seem to have the combo you want in one fitting. Guess that good for their bottom line.

[immortality]

I went down the AN fitting rabbit hole on one car, now I try to stay with factory style fittings where possible.

[vlad01]

Yeah I feel the same way with the way I build and mod stuff now, OEM where possible unless there is an obvious design oversight or flaw and aftermarket fixes or make it better. But OEM is often the simplest and most reliable way when it comes to most things.

It's so easy to get carried away and go down that shiny stuff rabbit hole!

Even the car manufactures can get caught doing the same sometimes. Take those supposed quick release fuel line fittings VS and new use. There is no benefit other than being able to slap the car together faster on the line, everything else it adds time and effort to work on, failure point, incompatible with normal hoses and fittings, no spare parts! Only expensive billet alloy options as a replacement which you guessed it, used AN on the end, so adapt to barb once again, adds even more complexity and points of failure.

[Wade]

Not sure if this helps at all

[vlad01]

I need these done, no flare nuts or anything, just a bead, barb if you will.

Still haven't found anyone yet that can. A few people have said they don't have the nuts for 3/8 but I am not sure how bead turns into nut? But then knock back the job anyway without saying if they can or can't do it. Frustrating. Feels like a repeat of the laser cutting jobs from a few year back.

But at least I have my sample pieces to copy from into the larger 3/8 pipe.

[Wade]

Doesn’t pirtech or enzed specialise in this kinda thing. I’d take a trip into one of there stores and physically show them what your after

[vlad01]

I know Enzed don't, haven't tried the other mob though. I've asked in store 2 years ago when I was getting a pressure washer hose and some bits, which never worked right btw, I asked about some various car related stuff including this while I was there, they suggested fittings to adapt back to barbs.

I am almost thinking that half doing an inverted flare might result in a shape close this this? It might be worth investigating.

If I had a real income I would just buy the parker aircraft tools and be done with it, then I can do the entire hardlines of the whole car when the time comes, but I am poor now and can only afford 50-100 bucks a week or so if I really try and be tight on everything else and get lucky as most of that comes from selling off small parts of low value on ebay every blue moon or so, that is all going into this car to get it on the road, as I only have about a year before the properly sells and I have nowhere to undertake such large projects or jobs anymore. The parker tools are something like $600, the machine that does that exact bead is about 30k, I know as I looked it up and found the machine long before the hand tool. The beads are actually a bit different if you look closely between the two methods.

I figured someone that works with hardlines much have at least hand tools somewhere.

[Wade]

Yeah I looked at the Parker ones. But then when I actually went into buying them, there like 1100-1200 or so? So what the fuck. I could get down with 500-600 but not 1000+. Cheaper to buy a Chinese lathe and make ya own.