P59 to Run Holden Ecotec v6, Help

[Muncie]

As Title says, I've bought a P59 and the entire engine loom out of another commodore with the goal of making it run my Boosted Ecotec/l67 hybrid.

Why? I want the ability to tap into the LS community knowledge and update the ignition system
at same time and go drive by wire I intend to run Boost OS.

All i need now is everything..... i've got a dummy engine to build a new loom over i dont consider myself expert, I'm not a novice though and have handled my current build from start to finish. Fabrication wiring and engine building and most of the tuning i've had some help with that.

My intention is to use factory parts so it integrates back into the car talks to body module etc instead of going aftermarket.

Educate me if you have an idea how i should approach this.

[antus]

Start with the trigger system. Note that you cant run sequential on a P01/P59 as 6 cyl, you loose that and as far as we can tell its not in the hardware ICs in the pcm so can't be put back in. There have been reports of people saying they've done it, but none with proof. I think those people are running multi-port and stretching the truth. Happy to be corrected if someone has found better and verifiable info in the last couple of years.

[Muncie]

Thanks Antus,

I got off to a false start buying a P01, And now have the loom and P59 so progress will be slow as I work on the Mafless ecotec tuning. But it will be happening in background.

What lead is recommended for these PCMs? To tune them

[antus]

One of the OBD XPro tools is recommended for pcmhammer, http://obdxpro.com/?ref=pcmhacking.net and using that link does help support the site. GT or VX is ok.

[Muncie]

Ouch! $270nzd at moment for the GT..... It does ALDL to though so can leave my old lead plugged in to my bench Flash setup.

Tips on triggering? What have others done to get correct signal out for the pcm.

[antus]

Just keep in mind that might be ALDL via D-PDU eg for factory tools like Tech2Win, or J2534 eg GDS2. Factory tools do use these protocols for ALDL, but most of the aftermarket didn't know about J2534 when tools were developed and there was no lower cost solutions so most of our ALDL tools just need a passive serial link. It wont support that for ALDL. The VX has VPW and Can which probably covers most use cases. There are other options out there but I cant recommend them due to quality concerns, clones etc. They might work, but I'd hate to recommend and you spend the money only to find you've been ripped off. So you can look around and ask questions of sellers and decide who to trust if you want to go that way.

[Muncie]

Im all for putting good tools in the toolbox, I just need man up buy it and maybe do some fab work to pay for it......

Im reluctant to tune others cars at moment, the i want a ghost cam and flame tune crowd are painful to deal with.

[Muncie]

Obdxpro VX ordered, the loom and PCM arrived so time to dig in to loom an think about what needs to stay and what comes out. Then triggering.

[AngelMarc]

Start with the trigger system. Note that you cant run sequential on a P01/P59 as 6 cyl, you loose that and as far as we can tell its not in the hardware ICs in the pcm so can't be put back in. There have been reports of people saying they've done it, but none with proof. I think those people are running multi-port and stretching the truth. Happy to be corrected if someone has found better and verifiable info in the last couple of years.

Delco CIC datahseet made it look doable. Rest should just be software; count 8 instead of 6 pulses for example. Turbo_V6 better be doing it right if he wants to charge for access.

[ejs262]

Look at some of the threads by "Turbo_V6" he has a custom OS running a 4.3 V6 on a P01, with coil per cylinder ignition.

FWIW, The P04 actually has the capability to run a individual coil ignition natively, it's a more advanced PCM than most people give it credit, but it's also the least looked at because it's a GM V6 PCM...

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