air fuel ratio during lean cruise

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air fuel ratio during lean cruise

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I did a search and couldnt seem to find out, but just wondering how lean a holden v8 can handle during hwy crusing? I have a wideband and have set 15.4 as a target for my ecu for light loads at hwy speeds. I dont have a lean cruise function so i've just set it in my main table. Sorry if this is in the wrong section.
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you could probably even go leaner than that, but the way to set it which is hard without having lean cruise, is to slowly apply the throttle, if you feel a stumble/jolt its too much.

I've seen as much at 17:1 on some lean cruise wideband readings, but you'll probably find, much past about 50-60kpa and it will want to be back to 14.7
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What I'd like to know how the catalytic converter is supposed to work properly on a car that has factory lean cruise? The mixture window is only about 1% wide for a 3-way converter to work properly I seem to remember.
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That's why there is no lean cruise on newer cars anymore (government reg due to the cat)and that's why some companys are using afm etc.
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theres no point going far away from 14.7 your just taking life out of the rings and valve seats.
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Ok cool thanks. I think it is 60kpa i have the cells at 15.4 for the revs i sit at between 90-120km/h. Also, how accuate are the readings the wideband receives? With my pacemakers, i have it screwed into where the narrowband was, so it only reads from the front 2 cylinders on the passenger side. I know the front four cylinders run a bit leaner than the back four from the look of the plugs, but is this where most people take the readings from?
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delcowizzid wrote:theres no point going far away from 14.7 your just taking life out of the rings and valve seats.
I as wondering if there was a trade off to going too lean, when you do tunes delcowizzid, do you set a target of 14.7 for cruise areas and run no lean cruise at all?
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Doesn't combustion temperature (not exhaust temp) peak at 14.7 and so get cooler once you go leaner? Or is it that going leaner means having spare oxygen available, therefore a hazard to hot metal parts?
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As above there's no point going leaner if it only causes you to put the foot down more or end up causing lean misfiring, it's just a loosing battle for no gain, 15.4:1 is where the peak burn temperature occurs so best efficiency but even with that you only get minimal savings, maybe half a litre per 100 tops is the best ive seen. I only set it to this in the low cruise area, once you put the pedal down a little it'l drop out and go back to normal closed loop.
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Agree stuff all difference for the sake of real minor fuel saving.
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