http://www.enginetechnologyinternationa ... wsID=62987
Interesting concept, wonder if we'll see it in mainstream production.
Amazing some of the power from small motors and the work being done to improve drive ability and torque spread.
The original VL 3.0 litre turbo was 150kw, now a 3.0 SIDI engine is 190kw normally aspirated.
Wonder where we'll be in 10 years time with hybrids and the like?
Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
It's a shame holden never played with turbo's after the VL, they had the torana twin turbo concept and it looked like they were going down that path but then nothing ? Twin turbo 3.6 sidi would be an absolute ball tearer ! Better than XR-6 turbo
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
LMAO don't get Yoda start on the cars Found On Rubbish Dumps... but they are AMAZING having owned a XR6T & getting 30% more power out of the factory settings purely with computer mod's, then hardware needs to be upgraded!
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
yeah i can imagine 3.6 on boost, look how good they go without compared to falcoon na 6. and they are 4L when the v6 is only 3.6.
The fact the 3.6 can push over 450hp na is scary. Thats 125hp/L
LFX is perfect, one big square port per head, ready for twin turbos.
The fact the 3.6 can push over 450hp na is scary. Thats 125hp/L
LFX is perfect, one big square port per head, ready for twin turbos.
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
You no those that are found on rubbish dumps are real shite when they pull the pin and won back them any more ! Tomorow will probably be the last real Bathurst race for ????
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
I'd say it clearly is the direction. Big boost is perfect for new car manufacturers. Better economy, emissions, and a nice bonus more expensive to maintain in the medium to long term. after all they want everyone to keep buying new cars as its not in their interest to have NA engines that last 300,000kms+ with minimal maintenance. And if they can sell the concept on the other good stats they can produce with a platform like that its a win all round.
Have you read the FAQ? For lots of information and links to significant threads see here: http://pcmhacking.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1396
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
thats very true. That is why I like NA so much, simplicity and reliability.
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
There is a video about this engine too ...
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNzYty1gAZI[/youtube]
I cant see many performance NA engines in the future, tough emission regulations are making it pretty tough to comply now days.
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNzYty1gAZI[/youtube]
I cant see many performance NA engines in the future, tough emission regulations are making it pretty tough to comply now days.
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
wonder if camless engines will ever happen? As above small turbos are already on alot new cars now to help emissions and give a little more torque.
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Re: Is this a sign of the future direction of the IC engine?
Great video.
I agree, days of the NA motor are nearly over.
The other trend is diesel, the triple turbo BMW X5 engine is another unbelievable engine, 280kw, 740Nm and all from a 3.0 Litre diesel.
Also the Mercedes A45 AMG, 265kw and 450Nm from a 2.0 turbo petrol.
Given this technology usually flows into mainstream engines fairly quickly these days, wonder what will be on the market in 5 years time?
EDIT: will also be interested how the aftermarket tuning copes with these? Although having said that everybody said when the VN was launched "what will happen in 5 years when they start breaking down", here we are 25+ years later and there still running and code is well and truly hacked.
I agree, days of the NA motor are nearly over.
The other trend is diesel, the triple turbo BMW X5 engine is another unbelievable engine, 280kw, 740Nm and all from a 3.0 Litre diesel.
Also the Mercedes A45 AMG, 265kw and 450Nm from a 2.0 turbo petrol.
Given this technology usually flows into mainstream engines fairly quickly these days, wonder what will be on the market in 5 years time?
EDIT: will also be interested how the aftermarket tuning copes with these? Although having said that everybody said when the VN was launched "what will happen in 5 years when they start breaking down", here we are 25+ years later and there still running and code is well and truly hacked.