Best bin for a 5L v8

[djbrooksy]

Hi gents
What would the best bin to drop into a 5L v8
808 ecu? At the moment it's got The ASBX bin

Motor has the normal mods exhaust and extractors and crap
Now has a manual box and sits in the bay of a vl

[Jayme]

you would be better off with a HSV based bin with the knock sensor turned off, given the extractors change the fuel map slightly. the HSV tune will be closer.

[Dylan]

They can also take a bit more timing with good fuel. Good gains can be had from stock tunes.
The 185 tune is a better start as Jayme said. Got a wideband?

[djbrooksy]

Yes I do have a wide band o2 setup
But the car is not mine. And the guy the owns it is just a work mate I don't to be spending hours squeezing every bit out of it I can.

Can I ask why turn the knock sensor off? Is it not compatible or does it do more hurt then good

[Gareth]

because only HSV have a knock sensor, so if you use a HSV tune it will fault unless you fit one

[djbrooksy]

Cheers didn't know that
shows how much I know about the v8 side of things

[Holden202T]

and usually when it has no knock board or knock sensor but its enabled in the tune it will retard the timing 10 degrees!

[djbrooksy]

So one last question
Are the HSV tunes safe to run without a knock sensor?
Is the timing in the range of premium only

And even then are they likely to ping their heads off

[Jayme]

yes its safe. even HSV runs pretty safe timing. I wouldnt be running 91 octane in anything...... if you do that you deserve a ping (but it wont ping even on 91 lol)

you should also put into diag mode and check the base timing..... ive seen soooo many 304's at 6 deg instead of 10 where they shoudl be. 4 deg costs a lot of power.

[djbrooksy]

Looks like it's all systems go then

Timing is OK that was checked when he first got the car
As for go juice his car his problem I just didn't want to be responsible for a tune that kills it

Thanks for the info guys and teaching me a few new things
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