Anyone go to Avalon today to watch burnouts?

[VL400]

A mate recently got given a VY V6, so decided to have a crack at some skids at the wed night off street meet. Now at the risk of upsetting many people on here, dont bother with a V6. Even with lots, and I mean LOTS, of previous skid experience he gave up on the V6 after a couple of nights. It was a stock car other than welded diff, chopped of exhaust and some minor flashtool tweaks to stop the mang mang and hold first gear.

Trouble is you just cant get the wheel speed up, not enough grunt and have to stay in first gear. Your local maccas car park is not the same as a sticky burnout pad and trying to whip it around. The commentator made the announcement that it must have solid tyres on, after 5 minutes and no tyre popping action you get given the boot. Even with some practice skids to wear down some tread it just goes on too long. The good thing was it never really over heated, after 5 minutes was just getting to near the red.

Now he has a VZ V8, a welded diff and dropped exhaust was enough to take out the win on one night. Early LS cars are cheap now, keep em stock and they handle 2-3 minutes of WOT just fine without really getting that hot.

[vlad01]

forget anything vt onward for burnouts the just don't wheel spin as they are too ass heavy.

My mates VY with some mods and fully built auto won't even turn the tyres from a stand still.

All the VPs in my family light them up drop of a hat in stock form lol

Once mine breaks traction I let go of the brakes and feather it and it revs like in neutral and move along very slowly. All the while pegging it on the right side like its on a greasy wet Melbourne road.

[VL400]

The V6 had no trouble with second gear skids on private land and popped the tyres fairly quickly. Sticky burnout pad and actually trying to whip it around quickly, whole new ball game. Plenty of early V6 cars find out the same thing on wed nights! Its rubbered in concrete.

Also didnt mention, as its a given for anyone not wanting flaming wheels, rear brakes were disconnected.

[HQ355]

My mate with 300 kW @ wheels entered his car in burnout comp at summernats says the same as vl400, it is very grippy on burnout pad. His car was bogging down, this same car will break loose @ 120 on the freeway likes it's a standing start and pulls 12 sec flat 1/4's, that's why you need the torque and that's why most burnout cars are blown

[Holden202T]

yeah if its going to be a v6 commie it needs some sort of boost!

LSx motors on the other hand are shit down low in the revs compared to the top end, so they do make good high rev burnout cars, but like anything, if your really serious your going to go out there with as much power as you can!

its very obvious watching a borderline enough HP car do a burnout as apposed to a car that goes straight to top gear and then plays with the throttle, 70km wheel speed v's 200km wheel speed is the key to a smokey burnout with popped tyres!

[psyolent]

ah good point VL400. rear brake lines disconnected.
did your mate have the usual 3.07s in the VY, or, 4.11s?
lol @ mang mang

boost required then.
oh hey whats thoughts on having power steering? yes or no?

[immortality]

If it's a dedicated burnout car get rid of the PS, just something else to break, leak and catch fire......

[Holden202T]

yeah i'd leave P/S connected, it would get mighty heavy out there going slow ..... but might be worth looking at different pulley to slow it down a bit for sustained high revs ? eihter that or convert to non-power rack.... my brothers turbo v6 commodore built for drags, still has power steering he loves it lol ... i don't really know how much load they put on the motor, but i wouldn't think it would be that much.

[psyolent]

i was watching v6 mang mang videos today and they seem to hold up OK. some decent lines might be in order though (braided)

[Gareth]

Keep power steering, just convert to electric pump so as the pump works at normal speed not engine speed, TS astra pumps are the go.

Or convert to full electric column like i've done in the speedway car.