holy shit theres some spark in there
i wouldnt be running with that
inj size is wrong
b careful with it ill keep sifting thru it
what mods manifold can etc??
After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
lol holy shit is right, wayyyy too much spark in there. inj rate isnt far off. stock is 0.15 this one is 0.13 which is set for approx 15% bigger injectors. tho blue tops are closer to 20% bigger. your VE map looks close to stock, I think it should look a lot different if it was tuned right to suit a carby style manifold. wideband VE learn is on so if the wideband is wired into the ecu it should be adjusting its own fuel maps a bit. can you take a log nad post it up?
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
load this in its a little safer in the top end spark
sepending on manifold you may need to pull more spark out as the afrs lean off a bit
keep an eye on afrs
sepending on manifold you may need to pull more spark out as the afrs lean off a bit
keep an eye on afrs
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
inj size should be 011 on a 5lt with blue tops
poke that tune in and check afrs
poke that tune in and check afrs
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
thanks for the help guys, I'm going to get a local tuner to have a play with it in few weeks time see how we go with it on the dyno also.
I tried changing the fuel from what it was to a 0.11 last night and the afr's went to about 17:1 cruising so i had to change it back. (I changed this at the map A run A/F parameter, is this the right spot?)
the motor has been rebuilt (apparently stroked to a 333 but i'm doubtful - definantly been freshened up at least, has 150psi accross the board), pacemaker extractors, twin cats into single 3" exhaust, Torque Power dual plane low rise inlet manifold with Holley Throttlebody, bluetop injectors. The wideband displays in tunerpro so guess it is wired in properly.
will try it with that tune though and let you know how it goes, cheers for that
Timing was about 29deg up near redline on WOT initially, thats abit too much i assume?
heres a log i took when i first got the laptop connected, it goes for a while but i did rev it right out a few times in there
I tried changing the fuel from what it was to a 0.11 last night and the afr's went to about 17:1 cruising so i had to change it back. (I changed this at the map A run A/F parameter, is this the right spot?)
the motor has been rebuilt (apparently stroked to a 333 but i'm doubtful - definantly been freshened up at least, has 150psi accross the board), pacemaker extractors, twin cats into single 3" exhaust, Torque Power dual plane low rise inlet manifold with Holley Throttlebody, bluetop injectors. The wideband displays in tunerpro so guess it is wired in properly.
will try it with that tune though and let you know how it goes, cheers for that
Timing was about 29deg up near redline on WOT initially, thats abit too much i assume?
heres a log i took when i first got the laptop connected, it goes for a while but i did rev it right out a few times in there
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
im not sure what you mean by initially? you mean when you bought it th eitming was 29 deg up top, then you increased it to the 35 or 37 that it is now?
on a totally stock motor, 29 deg at around 4800 is good, then above that can slope up a few degrees.
on a totally stock motor, 29 deg at around 4800 is good, then above that can slope up a few degrees.
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
is lean cruise enabled ?iju58u wrote:I tried changing the fuel from what it was to a 0.11 last night and the afr's went to about 17:1 cruising so i had to change it back. (I changed this at the map A run A/F parameter, is this the right spot?)
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
with a 330 try the inj size at .12 should be close then start trimming from there
you may need to pull a little more timing if its got flattops in it
you may need to pull a little more timing if its got flattops in it
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
Did the log work? I was sure it was only getting to 29ish deg timing under WOT (will have to confirm when I get home) I haven't touched anything to do with timing, just tried changing inj size last night, but will try putting the bin in that was modded and see how it goes 
May not get a chance to do it tonight though but will try.
Thanks for the help so far, been great!
May not get a chance to do it tonight though but will try.
Thanks for the help so far, been great!
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Re: After some help, just bought VR V8 running OSE12P ?
yeah it worked, its a message6 log, which isnt all that useful when you want to look at all the sensors, but yeah, it is gettin its 35 degrees up top end like the bin has commanded, there are a few knock counts here and there. I think the only hting stoopping it from its mountains of knock counts it shoudl have at that timing are the incredible richness and probably a pretty nice set of extractors.
if the wideband AFR is correct, then its pretty good in its closed loop at cruise but its gettin pretty rich at wot. I think you are gonna have to tune the ve tables, coz they look close to stock and I dont expect them to look anything like stock with a torque power inlet manifold.
youll either have to leave the injector rate where it is and pull a heap of fuel from wot VE table, or redice ht einjector rate then add a heap of VE to the cruise area. to be honest, I would do the first option.
either way, a log using the standard adx with the full set of sensors will give a better picture, if you can take one and upload it.
if the wideband AFR is correct, then its pretty good in its closed loop at cruise but its gettin pretty rich at wot. I think you are gonna have to tune the ve tables, coz they look close to stock and I dont expect them to look anything like stock with a torque power inlet manifold.
youll either have to leave the injector rate where it is and pull a heap of fuel from wot VE table, or redice ht einjector rate then add a heap of VE to the cruise area. to be honest, I would do the first option.
either way, a log using the standard adx with the full set of sensors will give a better picture, if you can take one and upload it.