E85, Fuel Lines & Hoses

[Holden202T]

why don't you just use the max LB/hr of the injectors your using ?

[Chuff]

why don't you just use the max LB/hr of the injectors your using ?

I'm yet to determine what injectors I'll be using. At this stage I'm only concerned with the fuel system.

The plan is to install the Camira EFI onto the engine currently residing in the car and get the hang of TunerPro & the tuning process before introducing boost into the equation. This will be my first time tuning any EFI engine, so I want to learn what I'm doing before proceeding to the next stage. Using the LB/Hr figures of the Camira injectors will be of no use as they will be tossed once the turbo comes into play.

So at this stage I just want to build enough redundancy in the fuel system to insure it can cater for the addition of E85 & turbo at a later date, while at the same time not spending unnecessary coin on components that are either going to be overkill or illegal for road use.

Thanks.

Chuff

[Dylan]

The 60lb Siemens seem popular and don't think you would max them out which is always handy.

[OZ38]

Sorry side topic here, sort of.

, I'd use any of the hard lines that you mentioned if they are compatible with e-85, just make sure you put the barb on the end of the lines so the hose dosnt come off. You can buy the tool that does that off eBay if you don't have one or can't borrow one, good luck !

Would you have the correct name for this tool or a link to one even ?

Cheers

[vlad01]

Is that the tool that presses out a rib on hard lines? would love that tool.

[Holden202T]

yep that's the one, I saw an ad from VPW for them!

[VL400]

Aeroflow 400 series is E85 rated, its good for the fuel pump/tank to hard line sections with just EFI clamps.

Running 3/8 hardlines will be a massive amount of fuel, plenty of high HP cars running stock lines on E85 too. 3/8th will give you a heap of headroom. For the terminating hard lines its cheaper to go with the a 37 degree flare tool and sleeve nuts if you have a few to do. They are also more reliable than compression fittings where no special tools are need, comp fittings are also mega expensive when doing a heap of ends. If buying a flare tool you need one for AN or JIC fittings, its 37 degrees compared to the 45 degree plumbing type fittings.

Here is the beading tools for hardlines to flex where you dont want an AN fitting ... http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AEROFLOW-PIP ... 1c418204ab or http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AEROFLOW-PIP ... 5d4cee9cf5 depending on size.

[HQ355]

Sorry side topic here, sort of.

, I'd use any of the hard lines that you mentioned if they are compatible with e-85, just make sure you put the barb on the end of the lines so the hose dosnt come off. You can buy the tool that does that off eBay if you don't have one or can't borrow one, good luck !

Would you have the correct name for this tool or a link to one even ?

Cheers

There called a "tube beader" simple to use, when you see a picture if one you'll get how it works straight away

[Chuff]

From Speedflow's catalogue, and I've pretty much read the same thing from all 400 Series Hose manufacturers. They all state their 400 Series hose is E85 compatible, and then recommend that you not use it for fuel. Instead, they recommend you to use their 200 Series PTFE Hose, but it doesn't end there. Not all 200 Series PTFE Hoses are the same. A few manufacturers offer an inner anti-static lining, but in only certain sizes, and it may just be that only the anti-static lined hoses will pass engineering.

@Biggvl

Maybe you can help clear this up. If you know, could you please provide the manufacturer & product code of the 200 Series hose in the F100. Also, is it the same spec hose supplying the pump on the low pressure intake side? Thanks.

With regards to the tube beader, does it produce a bead to stop rubber fuel hose from slipping off the hard line, or does it produce the bead required by a GM Quick Connect fitting? If it produces the first kind, then be mindful they may only work for aluminium tube, and not steel or stainless.

Thanks.

CHuff

[HQ355]

It's only for hose clamps not factory quick connects ( I havnt tried it in them so can't say )