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De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:04 am
by festy
I was introduced to this process a couple of years ago, and use it all the time.

You'll need:
* An old plastic bucket or container big enough to fit the part you're cleaning
* Water
* Washing soda, aka electric soda or sodium carbonate. Look in the laundry isle at your local woolies
* a 12(ish) volt DC power source like an old battery charger or power supply
* tie wire and hookup wire
* a few pieces of scrap metal (mild steel, not stainless)

Here's a pair of manky old brackets I found, I'll de-rust one of them:
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Fill your bucket up with enough water to cover the part, then hang the part in the bucket with a piece of tie wire.
Place a piece of scrap steel on the opposite side of the bucket, making sure it can't touch the part.
To clean both sides of the part at once, use one piece of scrap steel at each end and suspend the part in between the two.
Connect the part to your power supply negative, and the scrap piece(s) to positive.
Your scrap steel needs to be clean, and have a surface area bigger than the part you're cleaning, so thin sheet is better than solid bar scrap.
It will also be eaten up by the process, so don't use anything you'll miss!
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Then add a small amount of washing soda. A tablespoon or two is all you need.
If you add too much the process can be too agressive, plus it's just a waste.
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After a minute or two you will see some small bubbles forming on your rusty part:
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The next day it will look a little bit different:
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For large and/or really rusty parts they might need to be in the bath for up to a week.
Each day or so you'll need to change the water and replace (or at least clean off) the scrap steel.
To clean up an old bench vice I found in a wood pile, it took about 4 days in the bath.

And here's the original bracket, the de-rusted one (after wiping down with a rag), and the sacrificial scrap steel:
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The brackets are hot rolled steel bar, so that's about as good as it ever looked :oops:

The parts will start rusting again pretty quickly so either paint the part, or give it a quick spray of wd40.
Washing soda is pretty tame, and although the bath looks pretty horrid at the end it's about the least toxic liquid you'll have in your shed.

And the reason why you don't want to use stainless steel scrap is that there's a risk of hexavalent chromium exposure, so stick with mild steel!

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:07 am
by festy
Here's a better example, a mill arbor I de-rusted a while ago.

Before:
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After:
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You can see it's a gentle process, the original turning marks are still visible in the surface - and there's a couple of old knocks and dents that stand out now.
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Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:35 am
by Holden202T
I like it :)

now I just need a setup big enough to dip an entire car into lol

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:41 am
by delcowizzid
hahaha i dont think the wharehouse sell tubs that big

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Thu Jul 18, 2013 10:12 pm
by vlad01
I just use molasses and water, works great and its easy and cheap. It works better than electrolysis but its slower.

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 5:46 am
by yoda69
I'm with you vlad01. Have had good success with molasses and water, even if it is a bit slow, although this can be handy if you leave them in a little longer than planned.

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 7:15 pm
by vlad01
yoda69 wrote:I'm with you vlad01. Have had good success with molasses and water, even if it is a bit slow, although this can be handy if you leave them in a little longer than planned.

heat it up is what I do, the hotter thew fast and aggressive the De-rusting action. Chemical reactions happen fast with higher temps.

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 8:50 pm
by ejukated
delcowizzid wrote:hahaha i dont think the wharehouse sell tubs that big
There is no warehouse in aus :(

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 9:05 pm
by delcowizzid
red shed ? the nz warehouse is aussie owned LOL

Re: De-rusting old parts with electrolysis

Posted: Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:02 am
by Jayme
yeah they are around..... but most of them were bought out and name changed.... they go through some hands those cheap shops.