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Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 2:29 pm
by Dylan
The sensor could even have some smarts in it. The factory crank sensor reads 2 signals and outputs 1. The stock crank trigger wheel is like 2 doubled up. Whenever the front wheel is high the rear is low. The sensor measures both and so long as they are opposite it outputs a pulse.

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 3:25 pm
by Dylan
Quick google search looks like the cam trigger wheel does the long pulse. Raised section is half way around the wheel.

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:45 pm
by Holden202T
that doesn't make sense though because the magnet in the cam wheel is like 10mm in diameter max, it passes the sensor fro no more than 20 degrees I reckon ....

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:51 pm
by Dylan
Picks I found are a raised section half way around the wheel not so much a casting on the cam. Hope that makes sense. I've seen a crank shaft wheel in person but never a cam wheel. I'll get a screen shot and post up.

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:54 pm
by Holden202T
see the magnet, its in a black plastic bit that clips into the cam wheel
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Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:57 pm
by Dylan
Google images this. Wonder what it is off just said LS1 think it was LT1 swap.
The US seems to of got some different combos to us.

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 8:58 pm
by Holden202T
yeah that's certainly very different to the V6 one above it!

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:02 pm
by Dylan
Ah V6 yes the old "low res mode" they're different that's all I know.

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:10 pm
by Holden202T
yeah but if you just want a cam sensor for home reference surely that's enough ?

Re: 12200411 tune Disassembly (12225074)

Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2016 9:26 pm
by Dylan
Couldn't be sure. Looking at the trace from GM in the V8 manual it's on for a fair time. And I read on Google somewhere (not official GM literature) that when doing a crankshaft re learn it knows from the crank patter where cylinder 1 is and if the cam pattern is reversed the code can adjust it's calculations.
But that is with the full 24X crank pattern. Low res V6 is 3X crank and 1 cam I've never seen the trace for that though.

Is that pic of yours a V6 fitted with a 0411 PCM?