You do not need the CEL hooked up, can 100% assure you that it is not needed with 8192 baud data. The 160baud interface was using the CEL wire to bit bang data.
It may depend on the diagnostic interface but the minimum pins required on the diagnostic connector are 4/5 as ground and 9 as ALDL. You may also need +12V on pin 16.
Data on the ECU is pin A8 (colour is red/black).
Can try with the flashtool..
Vehicle = VR on Bench
Interface = USB ALDL
ECM Com Port = Whatever windows has assigned
This sets up echo for the interface and also does not go looking for a BCM. It works with a ECU on its own just like you have. Plug the standard HSV memcal in, open the flashtool, setup as per above, go to tools and then listen to chatter. Press 'Listen to chatter' and then switch the key on within a second or so. You should see data from the ECU that would normally go to the BCM for VATS.
Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
Ok I don't have ground at pin 4, I don't even have pin 4. Could that be my problem?
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
Ok I tried hooking ground up to pin 4 and made no difference. I don't have time to test my hsv memcal, but ill do that tomorrow and let you know what happenes. Thanks for the help
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
Beat me to a reply 
Will still add the info.
Pins 4 and 5 can be ground, some interfaces allow for both others use just 5 as pin 4 is not wired in many models - pin 4 is chassis ground and pin 5 is signal ground when pin 4 is wired.
Can you confirm the ECU is either a 16183082 or 16206305? This is the hardware type.
Will still add the info. Pins 4 and 5 can be ground, some interfaces allow for both others use just 5 as pin 4 is not wired in many models - pin 4 is chassis ground and pin 5 is signal ground when pin 4 is wired.
Can you confirm the ECU is either a 16183082 or 16206305? This is the hardware type.
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
I have a genuine vr manual hsv 16192428 bfpm ecu
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
Thats an interesting sticker! A 16176424 is a VR auto PCM part number, but that is the smaller ECM case which wont fit an auto PCM board, it has ECM plugs and mentions BFPM manual HSV.
Id be opening up the case to see what is inside, hopefully its a VR manual and not an '808!
Id be opening up the case to see what is inside, hopefully its a VR manual and not an '808!
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
Ok when I get home tomorrow ill open it up and take a photo
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
My first thoughts were that sticker was fake, but some adjustments to the photo and I think its promising that it might be the '082 were hoping for.
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Re: Diagnostic on VR V8 in VL
So pin 6 isn't necessary then?VL400 wrote:It may depend on the diagnostic interface but the minimum pins required on the diagnostic connector are 4/5 as ground and 9 as ALDL. You may also need +12V on pin 16.