CF Bedford Van

[Charlescrown]

This van is making me envious. Turning out to be a great project. As far as the police pads it's just that a bigger surface area gets rid of more heat under heavy braking but does not improve normal braking. I have a VR and the same thing with the police pads but no one had them so I put VT brakes in it as it did not stop when towing the car trailer.

[vlad01]

They really do bite into the rotors, when hot they make a nice groaning sound and really put up hard. Like the pads are welding themselves tot he rotors lol

[Holden202T]

... as it did not stop when towing the car trailer.

i'm inclined to think that there is an issue with the trailer brakes or you were towing more than the car is rated to ?!?!?

[HQ355]

I believe him, I had a VR 5.0 years ago when they were a very new car and the brakes were shit. My HQ pulled up better and couldn't believe that brakes on a much newer car were worse. When the VT's came out I put them on straight away and it was night and day, best thing I ever did to that car

[vlad01]

I believe him, I had a VR 5.0 years ago when they were a very new car and the brakes were shit. My HQ pulled up better and couldn't believe that brakes on a much newer car were worse. When the VT's came out I put them on straight away and it was night and day, best thing I ever did to that car

Did it have ABS?

[HQ355]

No abs mate, does it make it different ?

[vlad01]

My mate about 5 years ago had a vr with ABS, even with the bendix ultimate it did not stop.

both feet on the pedal as hard i could, took 3 times the distance as my VP with non abs. Its hard to convey just how bad they were, about as crap trying to stop with hand brake alone I guess.

[Charlescrown]

Even without the trailer the brakes were crap. I tried a few brands of pad and still crap. The car has ABS and IRS but when you put Sigma Pads on A Commodore which is about 300kg heavier what can you expect. I have been in the game for a long time and from my experience most pads stop the same in normal driving situations except for some extreme cases. I believe the VR was under braked and the fix was the VT. I didn't change the master cyl so yes the pedal is a little soft but I can live with that. Having driven VX and VY I think Holden built in the spongy pedal. If you push really hard the firewall flex allows the pedal to almost touch the floor. When driving it's not the case because of booster assist.

[vlad01]

what about falcons? they were way more under braked than circa vr models.

[Dylan]

My parents had an ef falcon and it braked well, better than vr commodore. They had a bf falcon as well and as good as vy vz commodores brake the falcon is better again.
I dont no what ford do different all PBR components and very similiar to look at but perform better.