PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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Edit: Tried a second read and it went, but by 10% it was over 20 retries and was looking like it was going to take a half an hour and I didn't have that long to wait around. Can re-engage that tonight to see if I can get a successful read.

This blackbox has the same OS as in your original post, it is a 4 plug unit in a 99 Chevy K2500. Here's the properties.

[10:59:27:421] VIN: 1GCGK23J3XF025507
[10:59:27:468] OSID: 9365085
[10:59:27:484] Description: Vortec Black Box 98-02, 4 Plug, Service No 16263494
[10:59:27:516] Hardware ID: 872429914
[10:59:27:579] Broad Cast Code: CMUH
[10:59:27:623] MEC: 0
[10:59:27:673] Voltage: 11.4

Using that version I tried a read of the blackbox and got this:

[10:56:49:327] PCM Hammer (10/11/2024, 1:20 AM)
[10:56:49:329] Sunday, December 29 2024 @10:56:49:32
[10:56:49:331] ElmDevice initialization starting.
[10:56:50:462] TX:
[10:56:50:477] TX: AT Z
[10:56:51:347] ELM327 v1.4b
[10:56:51:347] TX: AT E0
[10:56:51:363] AT E0 OK
[10:56:51:368] TX: AT S0
[10:56:51:368] OK
[10:56:51:368] TX: AT RV
[10:56:51:378] Voltage: 11.7V
[10:56:51:378] TX: AT I
[10:56:51:399] Elm ID: ELM327 v1.4b
[10:56:51:399] Initializing PcmHacking.AllProDeviceImplementation
[10:56:51:399] TX: AT #1
[10:56:51:410] This is not an AllPro device.
[10:56:51:410] Determining whether PcmHacking.ScanToolDeviceImplementation is connected.
[10:56:51:410] TX: ST I
[10:56:51:431] ScanTool device ID: STN1155 v5.6.19
[10:56:51:431] TX: STPTO 3000
[10:56:51:459] OK
[10:56:51:459] TX: AT AL
[10:56:51:474] OK
[10:56:51:474] TX: AT SP2
[10:56:51:490] OK
[10:56:51:490] TX: AT DP
[10:56:51:532] SAE J1850 VPW
[10:56:51:532] TX: AT AR
[10:56:51:571] OK
[10:56:51:572] TX: AT AT0
[10:56:51:601] OK
[10:56:51:601] TX: AT SR F0
[10:56:51:617] OK
[10:56:51:617] TX: AT H1
[10:56:51:632] OK
[10:56:51:632] TX: AT ST 20
[10:56:51:648] OK
[10:57:13:371] Will save to C:\Users\d_moz\Documents\Tuning Stuff\PCM Hammer\PcmHammer021\BIN\Plow_Truck.bin
[10:57:16:241] Querying operating system of current PCM.
[10:57:16:256] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:16:256] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:16:367] OK
[10:57:16:382] TX: STPX H:6C10F0, R:1, D:3C0A
[10:57:17:516] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:17:516] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[10:57:17:516] Setting timeout for Minimum, 0 ms.
[10:57:17:522] TX: STPTO 0
[10:57:17:548] OK
[10:57:17:548] TX: STPX H:8CFEF0, R:0, D:3F
[10:57:17:563] Empty response to STPX with data. OK.
[10:57:17:563] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:17:563] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:17:580] OK
[10:57:18:618] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:18:618] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[10:57:18:620] Setting timeout for Minimum, 0 ms.
[10:57:18:620] TX: STPTO 0
[10:57:18:650] OK
[10:57:18:665] TX: STPX H:8CFEF0, R:0, D:3F
[10:57:18:681] Empty response to STPX with data. OK.
[10:57:18:683] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:18:683] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:18:697] OK
[10:57:19:736] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:19:736] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[10:57:19:736] Setting timeout for Minimum, 0 ms.
[10:57:19:736] TX: STPTO 0
[10:57:19:767] OK
[10:57:19:767] TX: STPX H:8CFEF0, R:0, D:3F
[10:57:19:799] Empty response to STPX with data. OK.
[10:57:19:800] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:19:800] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:19:802] OK
[10:57:20:840] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:20:840] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[10:57:20:840] Setting timeout for Minimum, 0 ms.
[10:57:20:840] TX: STPTO 0
[10:57:20:871] OK
[10:57:20:871] TX: STPX H:8CFEF0, R:0, D:3F
[10:57:20:899] Empty response to STPX with data. OK.
[10:57:20:899] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:20:899] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:20:904] OK
[10:57:21:930] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:21:931] Receive timed out. Attempt #5, Timeout #5.
[10:57:21:931] TX: STPX H:6C10F0, R:1, D:3C0A
[10:57:22:009] RX: 6C F0 10 7C 0A 00 8E E6 5D
[10:57:22:009] Received: 6C F0 10 7C 0A 00 8E E6 5D
[10:57:22:009] OSID: 9365085
[10:57:22:027] Description: Vortec Black Box 98-02, 4 Plug, Service No 16263494
[10:57:22:027] Suppressing VPW chatter.
[10:57:22:027] TX: STPX H:6CFEF0, R:1, D:2800
[10:57:22:057] RX: 6C F0 C0 68 00
[10:57:22:057] Received: 6C F0 C0 68 00
[10:57:22:057] Sending 'test device present' notification.
[10:57:22:057] Setting timeout for Minimum, 0 ms.
[10:57:22:057] TX: STPTO 0
[10:57:22:057] OK
[10:57:22:057] TX: STPX H:8CFEF0, R:0, D:3F
[10:57:22:073] Empty response to STPX with data. OK.
[10:57:22:073] Setting timeout for ReadProperty, 25 ms.
[10:57:22:073] TX: STPTO 25
[10:57:22:088] OK
[10:57:22:088] Ignoring chatter: 6C F0 C0 68 00
[10:57:22:088] Sending seed request.
[10:57:22:088] TX: STPX H:6C10F0, R:1, D:2701
[10:57:23:178] Timeout during receive.
[10:57:23:178] No response to seed request.
[10:57:23:178] Unlock was not successful.
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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Yeah the scantool devices are pretty rubbish. They are a very slow protocol and also don't support 4x speed. I would like to drop support for them, but I guess slow is better than not at all and it should keep working if we just leave the code in there.
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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antus wrote: Tue Jul 16, 2024 4:00 am If anyone has a 4 connector black box on the bench and would like to help test this version, send me a PM.
Have 96 and 99
96 5 connectors of course
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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The test version is on the last page of the thread if you want to try the 99 on the bench and let us know.
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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It reads but crc check procedure not started
ObdLink SX latest firmware
PCM were tuned by HP tuners before (not locked) by me
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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V8fan wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:21 am It reads but crc check procedure not started
ObdLink SX latest firmware
PCM were tuned by HP tuners before (not locked) by me
I've been occasionally getting that same Object reference error during crc checks, restarting my laptop usually solves it for a while so I can get a few reads/writes before it starts throwing the error again.
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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zack4200 wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 3:48 pm
V8fan wrote: Sun Jan 12, 2025 8:21 am It reads but crc check procedure not started
ObdLink SX latest firmware
PCM were tuned by HP tuners before (not locked) by me
I've been occasionally getting that same Object reference error during crc checks, restarting my laptop usually solves it for a while so I can get a few reads/writes before it starts throwing the error again.
What adapter do u use ? Maybe its because energy savings features cuz laptops has a lot of by default ?
I use PC and power supply to PCM from MOLEX 12V -works excellent with P01-P59
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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I have a VATS-disabled BIN for a 2000 Tahoe 5.7. When I clone it, all the ranges show as identical. Does this mean the VATS delete is not being written?
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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Backwoodsracing wrote: Sat Dec 20, 2025 3:00 am I have a VATS-disabled BIN for a 2000 Tahoe 5.7. When I clone it, all the ranges show as identical. Does this mean the VATS delete is not being written?
Never mind I figured it out 😅
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Re: PCM Hammer 98/99 Black Box Support

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You mean before or after it writes the changes? If before, no changes to be written. If after, then it worked and passed the self check it was successful :)
Thanks for posting a success report. I know 98/99 black box is working, but we've had almost zero feedback so a report of success is welcome and helpful and its good to know someone is using it.
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